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CNN.com - Transcripts Return to Transcripts principal page CNN PRESENTS CNN Presents: Throughout your Footsteps regarding bin Laden Aired August 23, 2006 - 21:00 Â ET THIS IS Any RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He was obviously a youthful gentleman, extremely gentle, extremely polite. He said, "If I discover a person again, I'll kill you." UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He may be the most favored Muslim leader in the Islamic world today. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Whenever you hear his voice celebrate you need to be able to operate proper away, to grow for you to be outlined on him as well as fight. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Exactly what he's great at is actually killing civilians. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's extraordinarily crucial that people kill bin Laden. CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Osama bin Laden will become the world's many wanted terrorist. He haunts Americans as well as an incredible amount of additional around the world. (END VIDEOTAPE) AMANPOUR: He additionally inspires many to battle in the way which he intends to become long, expensive and also bloody. I'm Christiane Amanpour throughout Peshawar, Pakistan, the birthplace associated with bin Laden's terrorist organization al Qaeda. Not way from here just over the border within Afghanistan he disappeared shortly following 9/11. As Well As now, five-years later, we still do not really know where he is as well as when he'll strike again. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) AMANPOUR (voice-over): He wasn't any born leader and the man didn't often despise the particular west, what exactly changed bin Laden? What shaped this son associated with Saudi prosperity to the nearly all feared terrorist of our time? To realize more about Osama bin Laden, in order to carry an individual his whole story, we visited his home, his headquarters, his hideouts. We journeyed within his footsteps through Saudi Arabia to end up being able to Pakistan for you to Afghanistan. We searched with regard to answers via those who actually recognize him, his childhood friend. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He in simply no way talked about the particular American folks in the nasty way. AMANPOUR: His English teacher. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He understood an acceptable quantity of English however he has been rather reticent within expressing himself. AMANPOUR: The Actual man which married his sister along with ended up being bin Laden's closest friend. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Osama often mentioned his father all the time, his father, his model. AMANPOUR: Men whom fought together with him in the early days as well as noticed another side involving Osama bin Laden. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: While bin Laden used to know the particular explosions he utilized to leap and the particular man accustomed to run away. I nevertheless remember that me and also my elder and also younger brother we used to laugh. AMANPOUR: We fulfilled those that revere him. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): He may be the person who stood up against the biggest enemy in the world, the actual United States, so we adore him for that. OSAMA BIN LADEN, NOVEMBER 11, 2001: When avenging your killing of our own people can be terrorism, if killing those who kill our kids is terrorism, then history should be a witness which we have got been terrorists. AMANPOUR: He's the terrorist with stunning media savvy. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He has been foreshadowing a strategy which was previously throughout effect. AMANPOUR: He stood a double agent. ALI MOHAMMED: My name is Ali Mohammed. AMANPOUR: working deep inside the U.S. military and that will he offers repeatedly warned America which he is actually likely to attack. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They Will stated the subsequent couple weeks will have a big surprise. AMANPOUR: those who've prayed along with him, lived using him as well as fought for him reveal the tale involving his gradual however deadly transformation from the quiet, religious boy for the angry voice associated with holy war. Osama bin Laden spent my youth inside the boom town regarding Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, a new city his father assisted build. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Saudi Arabia inside the 1960s was, of course, any fantastically wealthy kingdom. Jeddah had been its major door towards the west. It had been its major port around the Red Sea and a huge quantity associated with constructing getting place. BRIAN FYFIELD-SHAYLER: I'm Brian Fyfield-Shayler. I taught Osama bin Laden English inside Saudi Arabia inside 1968 for you to 1969. Osama sat regarding two-thirds regarding the way back again around the correct by the windows. He wasn't an exceptional student academically. Upon one other hand, he was a extremely bright boy. AMANPOUR: Even though Arabic and also religious instruction took priority, the particular al-Fagr (ph) school, one of the the majority of notable schools in the kingdom, was stunning progressive. FYFIELD-SHAYLER: The Particular boys were built together with a western uniform. These People had trousers and shirts and jackets as well as shoes. AMANPOUR: Fyfield-Shayler had taught a quantity of bin Laden's brothers. Osama's loved ones has been well identified in Saudi Arabia. His father's career ended up being the actual stuff of legend. FYFIELD-SHAYLER: the bin Ladens had been practically a new storybook success. AMANPOUR: in Saudi Arabia, the bin Laden identify is everywhere. It's a vast empire with humble beginnings. the family patriarch, Mohammed, seen here throughout uncommon photographs, rose from the menial laborer to head among the particular largest and most effective construction companies within the middle East. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He built the actual airport. He built virtually everything which was standing a lot more than 2 meters substantial ended up built simply by bin Laden. AMANPOUR: Mohammed bin Laden's enterprise acumen will be passed onto his son Osama, who a long time later would draw in these same skills in order to create his terror network. Exactly what helps make this uncommon glimpse of Mohammed bin Laden so extraordinary is the actual fact that he's seen here along with Faisal al-Saud, the particular man who'd become the Saudi king. It highlights bin Laden's extremely close relationship with Saudi royalty, the link critical for you to his extraordinary success. FYFIELD-SHAYLER: Along With he had been a significant rough, unsophisticated character and no airs, graces. AMANPOUR: Unsophisticated but fabulously wealthy along with Mohammed bin Laden had many wives, concerning 20 almost all tolled, repeatedly divorcing as well as re-marrying. FYFIELD-SHAYLER: As Well As the existing man was recognized to possess an eye pertaining to alarmingly young wives. These kind of were very usually fairly unsophisticated easy girls in the -- from your villages. AMANPOUR: He had greater than 50 children. Osama came to end up being able to be within 1957 here on this Riyadh neighborhood. He had been the only child his mother had with Mohammed bin Laden before they will divorced. Then, bin Laden and the mother Alia gone to reside in Jeddah and lived here apart from the various other wives along with children. Mohammed bin Laden died when Osama was just 10 years old. FYFIELD-SHAYLER: The Particular institution ended up being abuzz with all the information that will Mohammed bin Laden had been killed inside a plane crash. AMANPOUR: Together With thus many siblings it's tough to say how shut Osama ended up being to his father as well as how the loss affected him. This photograph from the early 1970s shows a quantity of the many bin Laden brothers as well as sisters on the vacation within Sweden. Although it is not certain, a quantity of believe that this smiling boy, second from your right, can be Osama when he involved 13 a long time old. He has been quiet and also shy. His teacher says he rarely spoke up inside class. FYFIELD-SHAYLER: He didn't demonstrate any kind of specific indications of becoming a new leader amongst men. KHALID BATARFI: Yes, well he would be a shy boy. He wouldn't talk unless he needed to. He would listen more. I'm Khalid Batarfi. I achieved Osama bin Laden in the early 1970s whenever we lived on this neighborhood. AMANPOUR: This specific non-descript middle-class Jeddah neighborhood is when Batarfi, then get older 12, and bin Laden three years older became neighbors and greatest buddies going towards the mosque together, playing together, watching TV together, among their favorite exhibits American westerns and Bruce Lee movies. BATARFI: We would watch cowboys movies and also karate movies, issues that, an individual know, action movies. AMANPOUR: Batarfi took us towards the area where he and also bin Laden played soccer as teenagers. BATARFI: And Also just considering it brings the lot of memories and I enjoyed getting a captain really, a person know, telling people things to do. AMANPOUR: In the soccer area Batarfi has been the actual leader, Osama the particular follower. BATARFI: Nevertheless I would make sure he understands what to complete and the man was a excellent soldier. He would follow orders. Typically because he ended up being taller than many of us as well as older however play inside the front because this way he could use his head inside a score. AMANPOUR: Batarfi says the teenage Osama would generally consider the substantial road. He remembers a period his pal had been being bullied. BATARFI: And Consequently I went operating to the guy along with I pushed him far from Osama as well as solved issue this way. but then Osama found me as well as said, "You know, in the huge event you waited a couple of minutes I might have solved the problem peacefully." So, this is the actual kind of guy who'd usually think about solving problems peacefully. AMANPOUR: Whilst Batarfi took the lead around the playing field, when it stumbled on religion there was absolutely no query Osama is at charge. BATARFI: From the actual mosque we utilized to pray, yes, yes. AMANPOUR: 5 occasions every day devout Muslims turn towards the holy city of Mecca in order to pray. Osama had been usually amongst them. BATARFI: Pertaining To him it absolutely was a new must. AMANPOUR: This is one thing of a mystery why this son of your wealthy loved ones has been drawn to such rigid religious beliefs. More Than time, Batarfi observed his best friend grow for you to be a lot more of your fundamentalist striving to contact home according to his ultra strict interpretation with the holy Koran. BATARFI: no pictures, absolutely no music, and next not really TV unless there's news. AMANPOUR: Osama's religious devotion went beyond living a straightforward pious life. He had begun to trust it had been his duty in order to prepare to one day fight with regard to as well as defend Islam, Osama's training ground the desolate Saudi desert. The Particular son of your multimillionaire has been now preparing to find a life without having luxuries or perhaps basic essentials, your life as a holy warrior. BATARFI: I heard from his brothers that whenever they're going there these people sleep around the sand. There's no blanket if it's cold and, anyone know, just like soldiers. AMANPOUR: Batarfi had absolutely no desire to participate Osama's army therefore the 2 pals began to drift apart. BATARFI: I would rather the beach. I was more romantic. A Person realize I ended up being thinking regarding love. He ended up being pondering associated with love involving God. AMANPOUR: Nevertheless how do Osama bin Laden's adore regarding God turn directly into a mission to kill? (END VIDEOTAPE) (COMMERCIAL BREAK) (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) AMANPOUR: (AUDIO GAP) King Abdulaziz School inside Jeddah. JAMAL KHALIFA: I am Jamal Khalifa, the particular brother-in-law involving Osama bin Laden. The Actual first-time I satisfied him inside King Abdulaziz university throughout 1976. AMANPOUR: Your 21-year-old Khalifa as well as bin Laden became extremely close. KHALIFA: He loved horses any lot, particularly the Arabian horses. AMANPOUR: When bin Laden would journey about horseback to the Saudi desert however travel with couple of supplies, always screening himself maybe inside preparation for a different life. KHALIFA: We have our dates together with us in our pockets and also water. That's it. We sleep about the sands. AMANPOUR: Bin Laden also took his children, seen here, into the desert subjecting them towards the exact same regimen. KHALIFA: So, at least the youngsters would believe sometimes they have to be tough. AMANPOUR: In spite of his wealth, bin Laden additionally insisted about couple of comforts in home. BATARFI: I visited visit him as well as I noticed that the apartment had been extremely bare. Right now there had been no pictures. Your carpet was cheap. things were, you know, I wouldn't stay there myself. KHALIFA: He likes to become very, very, very simple. PETER BERGEN, CNN TERRORISM ANALYST: Inside The demonstrate biz industry terms, bin Laden has a fantastic again story. My identify will be Peter Bergen. I met Osama bin Laden in eastern Afghanistan throughout March associated with 1997. AMANPOUR: Peter Bergen, any CNN consultant, may end up being the author involving "The Osama bin Laden I know." This particular documentary is situated in part on his groundbreaking reporting. BERGEN: Here's the particular son of your billionaire who lives a really frugal, simple life. He's sleeping on a floor. He's not necessarily utilizing air- conditioning, won't even consume cold h2o and I consider this kind of easy life is among the reasons which his followers discover him attractive. AMANPOUR: Bin Laden could not need lived the lifestyle of the wealthy man nevertheless according to his close pal he do use his prosperity in order to be able to save the life involving his son. BATARFI: His very first kid needed a few health-related attention. AMANPOUR: Batarfi has been informed that will bin Laden took his son for the United States. BATARFI: in Washington airport, Dulles Airport, individuals were astonished at the strategies by which he dressed, his wife dressed. some of which were even taking photos and the particular man had been type of joking about it. We had been similar to in a zoo. BERGEN: Undoubtedly, bin Laden took his son pertaining to medical therapy to a western country along with it's possibly your Usa or possibly the United Kingdom. There's a few sort of controversy with regards to that. Nevertheless this would have been certainly one of the actual really uncommon occasions when bin Laden truly traveled to the west. AMANPOUR: In The Particular Program Of this time period while studying for his degree, bin Laden labored construction tasks for his father's company. KHALIFA: Osama always discuss his father all involving the time. Osama really loves his father a entire lot and always he's attempting to imitate him inside his business as well as in his work. AMANPOUR: Construction worker, university or college student, husband, father, along with survivalist, Osama bin Laden ended up being leading 1 life whilst preparing for another. An heir in order to one of Saudi Arabia's wealthiest family members he did not wish to be noticeable a minimum of not yet. KHALIFA: He doesn't like really to be a new leader, never place himself in the situation being a leader. AMANPOUR: Yet that might soon change. Bin Laden was about being trapped inside a movement that might carry him from student for the leader of your holy war. It would end up being a religious movement, one that will pit youthful Muslims from the establishment. That has been referred for you to as Sawa (ph) or even the Islamic awakening. KHALIFA: This had been your Sawa. at that time to help to make sure with regards to religion and also regarding how to practice Islam. BERGEN: Your Sawa ended up being the particular Islamic awakening in the 1970s. This was specially attracting somebody similar to bin Laden that has currently been very religious because Islamic awakening suggests that we're planning to generate much more just Islamic societies around the Center East. JAMAL KHASHOGGI, JOURNALIST: He originate from the generation regarding angry Islamists whom wanted to alter the Muslim world. My title is actually Jamal Khashoggi. I satisfied Osama bin Laden in 1987 inside Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. AMANPOUR: Khashoggi had been himself caught up in the awakening. As a new Saudi journalist he invested period using bin Laden in Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, and later inside Sudan. (on camera): How has been Osama bin Laden influenced through the Muslim brotherhood? KHASHOGGI: He began using the Muslim brotherhood throughout Saudi Arabia. He was greatly influenced. BERGEN: The Particular Muslim brotherhood was born inside Egypt along with once again and once more bin Laden is actually relying on Egyptian ideas, Egyptian political organizations and Egyptian folks and they tend to go him in the much more radical and also militant direction more than time. AMANPOUR (voice-over): This kind of man, Syed Qutb, has been an inspiration for that Muslim brotherhood. He had been executed in 1966 for the particular purpose many believe was a trumped up charge of attempting to overthrow the actual Egyptian government. His book "Milestones" was must reading with regard to jihadists but still is actually today. That challenges the actual long accepted belief that holy war must only be waged responding to an attack. Qutb justifies some thing new, holy war that will attacks your enemy first. BERGEN: Just About All this stuff are now coming together for bin Laden, your Islamic awakening, the particular fact that he's joined the Muslim brotherhood, the particular undeniable fact that he's reading Syed Qutb along with these are politicizing him and giving him the particular concept that people need to create a lot more perfect Islamic states round the Muslim world. AMANPOUR: 1979 will be a new critical yr for the Islamic awakening. The Particular Ayatollah Khomeini overthrew the actual Shah involving Iran. Americans had been taken hostage in the U.S. Embassy. Muslim militants around the planet were electrified. Which same 12 months the actual Grand Mosque within Mecca, the actual holiest associated with sites, became the battleground when militants seized it and additionally the Saudi government submitted troops. Osama bin Laden had been appalled that will this kind of holy place had been defiled. Along With then 1 month later on the last blow. the Soviet Union, godless along with communist, invaded Afghanistan, the Muslim country. This ended up being an affront in order to Islam. One year, three monumental events that might alter bin Laden forever. The Actual once shy, religious boy was ready to answer the actual call to some violent jihad and he would never appear back. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He said, "If I observe anyone again, I'll kill you." (END VIDEOTAPE) (COMMERCIAL BREAK) AMANPOUR: 1979, Afghanistan, Soviet troops invade an Islamic nation. A New contact regarding jihad from the infidels sounds all through the actual Muslim world, a new call raised through men like Abdullah Azzam, the Palestinian cleric, charismatic as well as deeply spiritual. He will always be the man who does mentor along with shape Osama bin Laden all through much of the 1980s. HUTAIFA AZZAM: My name will be Hutaifa Azzam. I've been living with bin Laden pertaining to more than eight years continuously you could say. AMANPOUR: Hutaifa can be Abdullah Azzam's son. This could be his first interview for western television. AZZAM: My father had been teaching Islamic and also Arabic studies along with Osama bin Laden had been studying engineering as well time. AMANPOUR: Bin Laden was drawn for the influential cleric seen here within Afghanistan. He ended up being the particular ideological force powering the actual call with regard to jihad and he implored your young and impressionable Osama to comply with alongside with him. AZZAM: In the finish of 1984, the conclusion associated with summer, my father informed him "You get to go away using me. I'm leaving to Pakistan along with Afghanistan." AMANPOUR: Nevertheless bin Laden ended up being not wanting to follow. AZZAM: He said, "No. I can't depart Saudi Arabia without having your permission involving King Fahd." AMANPOUR: With this time, bin Laden was still deeply loyal in order to his family having its strong ties towards the ruling home associated with Saud but the king encouraged volunteers in order to go fight using the Afghans. Bin Laden responded. He created your move via Saudi Arabia to always be able to Pakistan. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Folks contact me Abdullah Anas. I keep inside mind I met Osama in 1984 inside Abdullah Azzam's home in Islamabad. AMANPOUR: Anas was one of many Arab Muslims recruited simply by Abdullah Azzam in order to wage jihad throughout Afghanistan. He is seen here using Azzam and 2 regarding his sons Ibrahim along with Hutaifa. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sheikh Abdullah ended up being the actual father figure of associated with us. you can't imagine how he loved Osama bin Laden. BERGEN: The Actual picture you get of bin Laden as of this point within his life he's shy, he's retiring, he's monosyllabic. people barely get oneself a phrase from him. and he's completely overshadowed by simply his mentor Abdullah Azzam, which is really a larger than existence charismatic figure as well as somebody whom truly stood a father/son relationship using bin Laden. AMANPOUR: I traveled here for the city of Peshawar, Pakistan on the border along with Afghanistan to find out much more about bin Laden and the mentor Abdullah Azzam. Peshawar is a bustling frontier town, your perfect gateway for smugglers, spies, mercenaries as well as Mujahadeen, individuals holy warriors whom stumbled on fight from the Soviets in Afghanistan. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: you could get the arms. An Individual could acquire Kalashnikov. An Individual can easily sell it. It's a wide open area, entirely open area. AMANPOUR (on camera): The idea was at this neighborhood that will Osama Luxury Horse Farms For Sale Mount Pleasant DC bin Laden along with Abdullah Azzam setup the actual headquarters of a company they will referred for you to as Solutions Bureau. The idea would have been to assist Muslim fighters heading into Afghanistan and in addition Afghan refugees fleeing the particular Soviet Army. (voice-over): the Solutions Bureau was operate simply by Azzam. Osama bin Laden ended up being your financier, donating a few of their own fortune, and the cash he collected off their wealthy Saudis. (on camera): one of those houses, we're told, employed being any guest house, where the recruits will come just before entering Afghanistan. They'd be offered weapons as well as clothing, also as military and also ideological training. Bin Laden himself trained at among the camps. AZZAM: Your coaching in weapons along with how to use weapon, the way to fight, the means to be component of the actual battles. together we were together with bin Laden, yes. AMANPOUR (voice-over): Bin Laden's period inside the shadow involving his mentor, Abdullah Azzam, could be short-lived. Absolutely No longer content material in order to merely fund the particular fight, bin Laden yearned to participate it. His countless hours as well as days in the harsh Saudi desert without shelter as well as using couple of provisions had prepared him with regard to this moment. It had been usually his belief which he ended up being destined to be any holy warrior. BERGEN: I think he's usually modeled himself about the Prophet Mohammed and the Prophet Mohammed had not been just a great religious figure but ended up being additionally somebody whom personally battled your infidels. As Well As so, for bin Laden, it could become vital which you carry on in the Prophet Mohammed's footsteps. AMANPOUR: Regarding bin Laden the early times on the battlefield had been terrifying. AZZAM: Whenever bin Laden used to listen to the particular explosions, he utilized to jump and in which he accustomed to operate away. I nonetheless understand that me as well as my elder and younger brother, we accustomed to laugh. AMANPOUR: Yet several years on the battlefield would harden bin Laden. fear gave method to ambition. Mohammed bin Laden's shy and reticent youthful son, Osama, once reluctant to lead, has been now ready to end up being able to command his own all-Arab army within Afghanistan. ABDULLAH ANAS, FORMER ARAB FIGHTER: Osama begun to take into consideration governing all Arabs, just as much while he can as well as place them in a camp, in one front. AMANPOUR: His mentor adamantly opposed this idea. The idea was the start of the rift that could not heal. AZZAM: Bin Laden went and the man accumulated their own camps. He accumulated his own front and your man began performing their own battles. My father doesn't want Arab for you to perform separately and also that can be what bin Laden does within 1987. BERGEN: Bin Laden decided to produce this just about all Arab army because the youthful Arabs he was recruiting were ready to martyr themselves, had been willing to take incredible individual danger and it had been this group that will bin Laden molded to consider on the Soviets directly. AMANPOUR: Their Particular very first test ended up being the battle of Jaji inside the Spring regarding 1987. Azzam fought alongside bin Laden, who was suffering through reduced blood strain levels inside the thin, mountain air. AZZAM: The idea was obviously a very, extremely hard battle. and he joined your battle as they has been ill and that will he had been having 1 of these low stress as well as my father informed him to adopt respite, he refuses. As Well As he joined your battle pertaining to more than four days. AMANPOUR: the Russians fell back. Jaji ended up being the first victory pertaining to bin Laden's Arab army. BERGEN: The idea wasn't a particularly significant moment within the Afghan war. Yet from the psychological point associated with view, it had been really first of, type of, bin Laden's nearly mythic persona, simply because a bunch involving Arabs had held off your Soviets. It got any large amount of play within the middle East. AMANPOUR: Your once reticent along with terrified bin Laden was now hailed as being a fearless leader, a hero about the front lines of Jihad. AZZAM: He's brave, and he's ready to offer his life. He's not a coward. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I visited the actual sight of the battle with him throughout Jaji. AMANPOUR: Bin Laden invited journalist Jamal Khashoggi in order to Afghanistan. This was a little bit of PR throughout his new campaign to end up being able to grow to end up being able to be Osama, the actual general. Your beginning associated with his media strategy to draw in awareness of himself, and the message, a new skill however come to perfect. Khashoggi took this picture, he says the initial 1 ever printed of bin Laden. (on camera): Thus way Osama, Jaji was obviously a recruiting tool. KHASHOGGI: This was obviously a recruiting tool. The idea ended up being the commencement regarding having an impartial front, where he get to become the Amir, the leader of those Arab mujahedeen who're guarded around him. AMANPOUR (voice-over): Throughout 1988, your Soviets, worn down along with demoralized, began in order to withdraw coming from Afghanistan. Along With bin Laden, now battle-hardened, returned to become able to Peshawar, the holy warrior, with out a new war. but this man would quickly change that, Ayman al Zawahiri. AYMAN AL ZAWAHIRI, BIN LADEN FOLLOWER: We are Muslims who's think inside their religion. AMANPOUR: a radical Egyptian who would give bin Laden the particular enemy he has been seeking for. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) AMANPOUR (voice-over): Arab fighters, most smiles, following your battle involving Jaji. they made their own stand. The Actual Soviets, your infidels, were repelled. Within 1988, Osama bin Laden emerged the particular hero, his exploits about this Afghan battlefield had been immortalized inside Jihad magazine, printed through bin Laden himself and his awesome long-time mentor, Abdullah Azzam. Your battle associated with Jaji made bin Laden, and he had been pleased to exploit his new found fame. AZZAM: Everybody mentioned he won the particular battle in Jaji. Newspapers, magazines, everybody is actually referring to it. He became a hero. AMANPOUR: Bin Laden's soaring confidence as well as abundant prosperity would soon entice those looking to exploit this rising star, militants like Ayman al Zawahiri, an Egyptian doctor using promises to separate bin Laden through his money, as well as from his mentor, Abdullah Azzam. AZZAM: Your Egyptian informed him that in the big event you come, we will make an individual the leader, consequently we could develop up our extremely own organization. We could give you, we refer in order to it as Amir, we can provide an individual with your leader of the organization. AMANPOUR: Zawahiri had expended three many years throughout Egypt's notorious prisons pertaining to his Jihadist activities. ZAWAHIRI: We want to speak to the entire world. AMANPOUR: Embittered after years of torture at the hands with the Egyptian government, Zawahiri has been decided to overthrow the secular regimes of the Center East. His wasn't a battle to find a peace involving land. He wanted an Islamic globe with out borders. ZAWAHIRI: We're Muslims. We are Muslims who think in their religion. AMANPOUR: but Azzam disapproved involving Muslims fighting Muslims. With Regard To him, Holy War involved defending Muslim lands contrary to the infidels. two divergent influences, one old, 1 new. This specific is your place bin Laden's transformation began, through warrior for you to extremist. BERGEN: Bin Laden had been increasingly getting influenced by Egyptian militants about throughout his cycle have been declaring let's overthrow almost all of these secular governments inside the Center East, and also Abdullah Azzam had been opposed to that because he didn't want being section of whatever pitted Muslims against Muslims. AMANPOUR: Armed using a radical, new ideology, bin Laden has been ready to always be able to step out through at the actual rear of Azzam, ready to end up being able to lead his army about to the subsequent war. (on camera): And Also that army would take shape here, inside Peshawar, Pakistan, on this neighborhood, exactly where Osama bin Laden lived. meetings were held, plans were made. This specific is where al Qaeda ended up being born. (voice-over): Along With necessities such as real minutes involving individuals 1st meetings, any created record with the creation of an organization called al Qaeda, or even the base. These kinds of notes obtained simply by CNN, are seen here for that first-time upon television. BERGEN: Whenever al Qaeda was founded, there is zero thought of attacking your United States. In Which would come much, significantly later. The Particular program was actually about coaching individuals with regard to jihads outside Afghanistan. AMANPOUR: The Particular minutes record bin Laden and one other attendees. Generally there had been strict needs to grow to be outlined on al Qaeda, a few stunning ones. They Will must, with regard to example, have good manners, and good references, plus they must recite an oath to concentrate and also obey your superiors. Within al Qaeda's composition and also flow chart, bin Laden showed that he has been his father's son. BERGEN: Bin Laden comes out of your business background. His father has been one of probably your most effective businessman within the middle East. Bin Laden himself studied at the university or college therefore he modeled al Qaeda inside a rather sort of company model. He has been kind of the actual CEO, there committees pertaining to military affairs, religious affairs, financial fairs along with media affairs. AMANPOUR: Al Qaeda created members indicator a jobs contract. Presently there was a benefits package, vacations home, complete using round-trip airline tickets. Vacation requests had to be submitted a pair of and a half several weeks ahead involving the journey date. Recruits had been soon put to the test. Throughout February, 1989, the particular Soviets within the last phases regarding their withdrawal left out a puppet Afghan communist government. for Osama bin Laden along with al Qaeda, victory in Afghanistan had not been yet complete. they joined your battle against the Afghan communists in Jalalabad, close for you to the Pakistan border. EDWARD GIRARDET, BRITISH JOURNALIST: My name can be Edward Girardet and I 1st met Osama bin Laden in 1989 throughout Kunar Province of Afghanistan. AMANPOUR: Girardet, a new British journalist was covering the actual battle associated with Jalalabad. He remembers any opportunity yet chilling encounter using bin Laden throughout the fighting. GIRARDET: We arrived with leading series as well as suddenly this very tall Arab came up to me, walked up as well as said, "You know, what are an individual currently carrying out here?" As Well As he said, "This is the jihad as well as you've zero right to become here and furthermore you must leave." AMANPOUR: Girardet had by simply no means heard of bin Laden, however for that subsequent 45 minutes, your mysterious Arab warrior spoke within English. Religion had been the subject associated with discussion. GIRARDET: and then as our conversation stumbled on an end, I reached out my hand to always be able to bid good-bye and the actual man said, "I can't shake your own hand." And Also as I turned away, he said, "If I notice a person again, I'll kill you." AMANPOUR: In the particular battlefield inside Jalalabad, bin Laden was a dismal failure. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We lost greater than 45 kilometers because regarding his mistake. AMANPOUR: As Well As he lost many soldiers, amongst individuals inside the militant community, such as Egyptian Osama Rushdi, bin Laden's popularity took a new hit. OSAMA RUSHDI, FORMER EGYPTIAN MILITANT (voice-over): Lots of men and also women criticized Osama bin Laden because he led the Arab fighters to the battle regarding Jalalabad in the very disorganized way. more compared to 300 of which were killed. AMANPOUR: Shortly following your battle, bin Laden returned where anyone can Saudi Arabia PRINCE TURKI AL-FAISAL, SAUDI AMBASSADOR TO U.S.: My title can be Turki al-Faisal. I met Osama bin Laden in Pakistan within 1985. AMANPOUR: Prince Turki al-Faisal ended up being the head of Saudi Arabia's intelligence service. He told me which in 1990, bin Laden offered up his army to drive out your communists from neighboring Yemen, but the Saudis didn't just take him seriously. (on camera): Just what was your response when he had been quoted saying that he wanted to do that? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My response to become able to him had been in which this isn't the best time, and also in which military conflict within the south Yemen had certainly not been advisable at this time. AMANPOUR (voice-over): Later On that year, when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait, bin Laden, when again, offered his troops to the Saudis. AL-FAISAL: He inquired some other officials in the kingdom for your opportunity, again, to bring his Mujahedin, because he called them, they are generally driving out Saddam Hussein through Kuwait, as well as again, he has been told that was certainly not the best factor in order to do. AMANPOUR: Instead, the actual Saudis turned towards the West regarding help. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Go, go, go, go. AMANPOUR: Reporter: the U.S. led the multinational coalition using a huge selection of 1000s of American troops, in the terrain of the 2 holiest places, Mecca and also Medina. For You To bin Laden, it absolutely was sacrilege. He began to voice his outrage. Once the Saudis attempted to muzzle him, bin Laden fled the kingdom. Any man without any country, a man on the run, a man racing into a point regarding zero return, September 11, 2001. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) AMANPOUR: Across via Saudi Arabia, across the Red Sea, lies the world involving Sudan. Its capital, Khartoum, an old African crossroad. That ended up being here within the early 1990s in which a radical Muslim government hell- bent in making a pure Islamist state opened its doors in order to bin Laden along with al Qaeda. BERGEN: 1991, '92, bin Laden's a guy with out a nation and your man decides to visit Sudan, because there exists a government which usually features lately arrive into power, which is sympathetic to become able to his view and he believes that he will help create a few sort of Islamic utopia. AMANPOUR (voice-over): An Islamic utopia in which bin Laden lay out to build through this, his new residence throughout Khartoum. Here, he quickly began an selection of businesses. Bin Laden wasn't trying to foster the particular persona of a global terrorist. SCOTT MACLEOD, CAIRO BUREAU CHIEF, "TIME MAGAZINE": He wanted to demonstrate which he was a businessman, and that he was a genuine businessman. My name is actually Scott Macleod. I met Osama bin Laden in Sudan inside 1996. It struck me he was very calm, serene, nearly just like a holy man. AMANPOUR: Though he'd been made to flee Saudi Arabia regarding speaking out from the government, and U.S. troops inside the Kingdom, in the early '90s, there was very few in U.S. law enforcement whom knew of Osama bin Laden. DAN COLEMAN, FORMER FBI AGENT: at which point in time, especially from your FBI, he hadn't attracted a great offer of attention. AMANPOUR: Which would change. at 12:18 p.m. about February 26th, 1993, the particular world Trade Center, an icon involving American economic power, has been attacked by a effective truck bomb. The Particular nation was at shock as it watched are living coverage with the chaos around the twin towers. for years, Americans had watched news footage with the aftermath of terrorism abroad, yet this is different. This has been an attack on the homeland. the manhunts that will followed would eventually lead towards the arrests and convictions involving a pair of men together with suspected hyperlinks to end up being able to bin Laden, Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and Ramzi Yousef, the mastermind with the world Trade Middle bombing. BERGEN: Bin Laden offers denied knowing Ramzi Yousef yet within the larger sense, bin Laden truly has been responsible simply because Ramzi Yousef had trained in an al Qaeda coaching camp and also Ramzi Yousef's uncle, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed would end up being the guy who went to bin Laden in 1996 using the beginnings regarding an amount come out to become the actual policy for 9/11 itself. AMANPOUR: Bin Laden could deny knowing Ramzi Yousef, but there can be certainly simply no denying the influence regarding Omar Abdel Rahman, a radical Egyptian cleric whom preached only at that Jersey Metropolis mosque, across in the world Trade Center. Rahman, commonly recognized as because the blind Sheikh, was the spiritual guide of the trade center bombers, and also would ultimately become the theological force powering al Qaeda. BERGEN: To Become Able To the extent in which there is actually a spiritual self-help guidebook to al Qaeda, I feel it's Sheikh Rahman, simply because he could be the spiritual influence of the Egyptians inside al Qaeda and furthermore the Egyptians are generally thus important for the team ideologically and also personally. AMANPOUR: Bin Laden's relationship with almost all the Egyptian militants surrounding him, inside particular, Ayman al Zawahiri, intensified within Sudan. Journalist Jamal Khashoggi met together with bin Laden any quantity of times in your course of this period. KHASHOGGI: I felt the existence in the Egyptian radicals. That They were there, physically these were there. These People would not sit with me. We had been throughout his garden, sitting on the floor, talking, when somebody arrive along with whispers something throughout his ear. I couldn't comprehend what they were saying yet I found the Egyptians slang there. That They had been there. AMANPOUR (on camera): And Also describe how he had been changing them. And Also what he was doing. KHASHOGGI: Presently there ended up being a pair of Osamas within Sudan. From the beginning there is a radical on, an angry one, angry in his government, who had been wanting to play a new political role, who was attempting to push for change, revolutionary-type change in Saudi Arabia. The year later, specifically throughout 1995, I saw an even more subdued Osama, whom began to talk more moderately. He even regretted some associated with the statements he place out against his government, a few radical positions he did, and that he seemed to me as he desires to go back. However I believe he were built with a fight within, among just how he has been mentioned as becoming a moderate Muslim and the predicament he located himself within allied along with radical Egyptians, and the man couldn't choose. AMANPOUR: He couldn't choose, says Khashoggi, consequently he allow events decide for him. By Simply 1995, the particular Saudi government had frozen bin Laden's assets, as well as stripped him involving his citizenship. His loved ones had publicly disowned him. Privately, however, there was attempts to bring him again into the fold. Bin Laden allow his correct feelings always be known inside this, an open letter for you to King Fahd. Throughout it, he condemned the particular Saudi Royal Family, calling all of them corrupt. He furthermore known as to get a marketing campaign involving attacks to manage a vehicle U.S. forces out with the Kingdom. Bin Laden's words were heard. not long afterwards his decree, the terrorist auto bomb ripped via the joint U.S./Saudi military facility within Riyadh, killing five Americans. AL-FAISAL: The automobile bomb exploded facing the actual National Guard coaching middle within Riyadh, and the perpetrators were captured, plus they mentioned that they had been inspired through bin Laden. AMANPOUR: Your Saudi Royal Family Members as well as the Clinton administration had seen enough. both stepped up strain on the Sudanese government to expel bin Laden, which through now ended up being out of income and knew his days had been numbered inside Khartoum. He'd already survived a minimal of 1 assassination attempt by simply rival extremists. ANAS: I has been sitting inside yet another guest residence throughout Khartoum, when I heard right after sunset that there exists a clash, and furthermore the attack with the guest house regarding Osama, so as in order to kill him. AMANPOUR: under fire, and feeling the actual heat, Osama bin Laden and his awesome followers take flight again. Inside Might of 1996, bin Laden returns to be able to where his holy war began, the troubled lands that would spawn your unthinkable. BERGEN: We realize that bin Laden can be in cost of 9/11 but within the final five-years the particular United States Regarding America offers not been in a place to catch him. The Actual very great news is, is that today, there's an improved sense of exactly where he could be. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) AMANPOUR: Your mountains regarding Afghanistan, exactly where Osama bin Laden would really feel many in home, your place he found when he is at trouble, safe behind these walls. (on camera): By Simply 1996, Osama bin Laden would always be a man around the run. Stripped associated with his Saudi citizenship along with banished from Sudan, he came to this now destroyed compound inside Jalalabad, Afghanistan. That was from this level that however galvanize his followers simply by declaring war on America. He were built together with a chilling message. Along With he delivered it to CNN inside his first-ever television interview. PETER ARNETT, FORMER CNN CORRESPONDENT: My identify can be Peter Arnett. I fulfilled bin Laden like a CNN correspondent in Afghanistan in March 1997. While bin Laden was not well known to the American public or even towards the world, inside the news media, there ended up being clearly a serious large quantity of competition for that interview. AMANPOUR (voice-over): Spearheading CNN's effort has been then producer Peter Bergen. He negotiated pertaining to a couple of months along with bin Laden contacts in London. BERGEN: And, then, we basically got the particular green light. With Regards To the month later, I got a new call, saying the particular man inside Kuwait desires to notice you, that had been the particular code for, visit Jalalabad, see bin Laden. AMANPOUR: driving via Pakistan through your Khyber Pass, the particular crew created its method to the small capital associated with scotland- Jalalabad. ARNETT: We drove to the Spinghar Hotel. That would become a really old- fashioned 1930s hotel. Clearly, the hotel itself kind of had not any kind of restoration work in years, nevertheless it had been home with regard to weekly or perhaps so. BERGEN: and we waited. AMANPOUR: I achieved using Bergen at the Spinghar Hotel, exactly where he informed me with regards to bin Laden's new and incredibly savvy media campaign. (on camera): In Order To me, it sounds odd which however use a media adviser. I mean, I know of Osama bin Laden as hiding in the cave, around the run, raw. BERGEN: Well, anyone know, I believe bin Laden's had a media strategy from your day he woke up, almost. I mean, he's -- he's keenly mindful of it. He wants to get his message out. He decided that will CNN ended up being the particular -- the car regarding his initial television interview. At the particular point, yet another media adviser came, a kind of guy together with lengthy hair, a younger guy, looked in any way our camera equipment, and mentioned 'you Can't use any one of this.' AMANPOUR: Peter Jouvenal, a British freelance photographer, joined the team. PETER JOUVENAL, BRITISH FREELANCE PHOTOGRAPHER: I fulfilled Osama bin Laden inside Afghanistan within 1997. One day, an Arab came to my room, wanted to examine out my camera. He seemed to become concerned that will there might be some kind of monitoring device or some type of device which could hurt Osama. So, i has been advised that which they would give a camera for just about all of us in order to use. BERGEN: Right After about 5 days, a new van pulls up. It's dusk. JOUVENAL: We just about all piled within the back, after which they will gave us these sunglasses which had components of cardboard cut out along with stuck into the lenses, and then we couldn't notice them. BERGEN: In the certain point, these people slow down. These People tell us, if you've a tracking device, now is the actual time to tell us. Otherwise, it can be a problem. I took the issue in order to be, anyone know, execution. JOUVENAL: Well, what they does is, they drove us about Jalalabad throughout circles, I consider trying to disorientate us. BERGEN: Then we began going towards the mountains, change regarding vehicle into a four-wheel drive. Finally, we arrive with a place exactly where we're searched really professionally. they sweep us using a track -- with some sort of electronic thing I'd never seen before. Nevertheless I took it to be able to be, should you have had a new monitoring device, that they would locate it. ARNETT: We would transfer on pertaining to 20 or 30 minutes. another group would stop us, just operate in front of the particular car. And In Which I thought, it was an extremely impressive display of security. BERGEN: Along With these were extremely pleasant. And that I wasn't concerned. I mean, that they will had invited us to possess an interview. I didn't -- this truly is long before journalists had been being killed in this part of the world. AMANPOUR: after the rocky climb, the crew set up on a mountaintop in the little hut. JOUVENAL: And Also somebody declared he's coming. BERGEN: And, then, suddenly, out with the darkness, bin Laden appears. ARNETT: A Lot More in for you to the subject. And he ended up being carrying an AK-47. So, sitting there, searching up as regarding this gigantic figure, ended up being somewhat intimidating. JOUVENAL: He gave a very limp handshake. BERGEN: He came in. He ended up being most business. A Person know, "Hello" -- no, simply no -- almost no chit chat, sat down, as well as began the interview. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ARNETT: Mr. Bin Laden, you've declared any jihad contrary to become able to the United States. Can Easily an individual tell us why? BIN LADEN (through translator): We declared jihad upon America since the U.S. government is unjust. (END VIDEO CLIP) BERGEN: Basically, he was declaring war from the Usa for that initial time for a person personally to Western reporters. That Will had been your message. ARNETT: He basically talked about, anyone know, getting rid of American existence from the middle East, specifically, from, say, Saudi Arabia. He didn't talk compromise. Leave now whilst you have your chance. We destroyed the actual Russians, the particular Soviet Union. When anyone stick with us, you may -- in the wedding you stay around here, we will destroy you. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ARNETT: Precisely what with regards to U.S. civilians within Arabia or perhaps the individuals of the United States? BIN LADEN (through translator): Though American civilians usually tend to be not targets inside our plans, they have got to leave. We can not guarantee their particular safety. (END VIDEO CLIP) AMANPOUR: Quickly afterwards, bin Laden had been gone. ARNETT: He appeared along with disappeared. A Person know out of the blue, out of the night, he came to the hut, disappeared into the night. That's his style. JOHN MILLER, FORMER ABC NEWS CORRESPONDENT: my name is actually John Miller. I met Osama bin Laden in Could associated with 1998 in Afghanistan. AMANPOUR: The yr right after bin Laden satisfied along with CNN, ABC Information correspondent John Miller had been also provided an interview. Bin Laden was making use of the particular media regarding each his message and his awesome image. MILLER: Bin Laden arrived in the motorcade regarding three SUVs. during this time, everybody shoots their particular guns up to the air, along with tracer rounds as well as -- and machine-gun fire. (GUNFIRE) MILLER: As Dr. Zawahri said, when Mr. Bin Laden comes, there is usually excellent celebration. He had an AK-47, which he kind of gently propped up against a guide regarding the entire world that have been taped up about the wall behind him. Again, I feel extremely purposefully, to show in which al Qaeda would end up being a global organization. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MILLER: The Particular American people, by simply as well as large, do certainly not know the name bin Laden. However they soon likely will. Perform you've an email for that American people? BIN LADEN (through translator): the greatest terrorist can be America. (END VIDEO CLIP) MILLER: in your interview, he declared war in America. The idea sounded any -- a little hyperbolic. However I don't feel we understood the actual depth involving his program or even the creativity involved. What he ended up being doing was, he has been foreshadowing a strategy that features been previously in effect. Your die had been cast. He was just doing a little advance publicity. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BIN LADEN (through translator): We do certainly not differentiate between those wearing military uniforms and civilians. They Will are generally all targets. AMANPOUR: Now, no one could be safe. Bin Laden had been upping your ante in a way Americans would comprehend much too soon. MILLER: He said, I predict a black day for your United States, following which the particular united States won't ever function as same. (END VIDEOTAPE) (COMMERCIAL BREAK) (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) AMANPOUR (voice-over): Masked men -- al Qaeda -- below the duvet of night -- final preparations. Daybreak -- the key event -- a new heavily guarded SUV suddenly arrives within the city of Khost, Afghanistan. Gunfire erupts everywhere. Osama bin Laden performs for that cameras. It's an explosive starting to his first and only press conference, witnessed by Pakistani journalist Ismail Khan. ISMAIL KHAN, PAKISTANI JOURNALIST: Just About All in the sudden, these were shooting and then boom, boom, rocket-propelled grenades, and also firing. And, regarding once, I thought, we now have belong to attack as well as something." AMANPOUR: Might 26, 1998 -- this was bin Laden's videotaped contact for war against America. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BIN LADEN (through translator): By Simply God's grace, we've formed a company using additional Islamic teams and Islamic nations, a front referred in order to as Islamic Front. (END VIDEO CLIP) AMANPOUR: Throughout this press conference, bin Laden moves public with al Qaeda's promises to attack the United States. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BIN LADEN (through translator): The Actual Jews and also the Christians come together against Muslim. (END VIDEO CLIP) AMANPOUR: Bin Laden had turned most together together with his declaration of war. (on camera): no more time would he just attack the particular U.S. military as well as U.S. leaders. Now he had been proclaiming that the American people would be reputable targets. HAMID MIR, OSAMA BIN LADEN BIOGRAPHER: My name is actually Hamid Mir. And I Also met Osama bin Laden, very first time, throughout Tora Bora mountains. AMANPOUR (voice-over): Journalist Hamid Mir is creating an authorized biography of bin Laden. He interviewed the particular al Qaeda leader 3 times throughout the 1990's. AMANPOUR: How do he justify the killing associated with innocent Americans? MIR: He mentioned that, yes, the actual killing involving innocent children and ladies is not permitted throughout Islam. but if they're killing our innocent children, if they're providing weapons towards the Israelis as well as towards the some other anti-Muslim forces, to kill Muslims, we have the right to end up being able to reply again inside the same manner. AMANPOUR: Whilst bin Laden believed he stood a political justification regarding killing American civilians, he required the particular trappings associated with clerical legitimacy. In Which will come within the form of your fatwa, a spiritual decree coming from Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, your blind radical Egyptian cleric, the actual spiritual manual in the 1993 Globe Trade Middle bombers. When the fatwa has been handed out at bin Laden's press conference, Rahman ended up being previously imprisoned in the Usa on terrorism charges. BERGEN: Neither bin Laden, nor Ayman Al-Zawahri, his range two, tend to be religious scholars. As Well As they tend to be totally aware that. and so, they needed this fatwa through Sheik Rahman to always be able to sort of provide these with clerical include regarding this unprecedented thing, which in turn ended up being attacking American civilians. AMANPOUR: This particular laminated card, having its Arabic script, outlined, using chilling accuracy, al Qaeda's terrifying new course. It is seen here in your media for the first time. MIR: in in which fatwa, it was written that, Kill Americans in the sea; kill Americans inside the air; kill Americans everywhere. AMANPOUR: Rahman's significance to become able to al Qaeda is underscored simply by its fervent preoccupation using freeing the blind sheik from his American prison cell. Osama bin Laden vowed the maximum quantity of in this video. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BIN LADEN (through translator): We promise to always be able to function with just about all of our capacity to free our brothers everywhere as well as in just about any prison, specifically in America, such as Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman. (END VIDEO CLIP) AMANPOUR: There's even a new training exercise targeted at springing Rahman, layed out within the Encyclopedia regarding Jihad, al Qaeda's huge guide on everything coming from guerrilla warfare and terrorist tactics to always be able to the means to recognize any rattlesnake or even treat any scorpion sting. BERGEN: thousands along with thousands of pages. That draws about many sources, including U.S. Army manuals, and it is something that, apart from the education camps, I feel may always be the most important factor in which al Qaeda gave for the global jihadist movement. AMANPOUR: The Particular encyclopedia, your years of recruiting, working out camps, al Qaeda's murderous new ideology, most involving it culminating inside this, Osama bin Laden's official and extremely public declaration involving war upon America along with Americans. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BIN LADEN (through translator): Whoever counts upon God, God will grant him victory. and we're giving the actual good news that individuals will acquire victory more than America as well as the Jews, God willing. (END VIDEO CLIP) AMANPOUR: Bin Laden had spoken. once again, he had warned his enemy. Yet was anyone really listening? Would any person just take him seriously? Bin Laden was ready for you to strike, along with now had his as well as the girl own spy chasing the actual target... ALI MOHAMMED, AL QAEDA OPERATIVE: My title is Ali Mohammed. AMANPOUR: ... an agent that had expended a extended time inside your U.S. military. (END VIDEOTAPE) (COMMERCIAL BREAK) (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) GARY BERNTSEN, FORMER CIA OFFICER: I feel it was maybe 4:30 inside the morning when my telephone rang. A New woman that is at our watch center stated there are already detonations regarding explosive devices against two embassies inside East Africa. AMANPOUR (voice-over): 2 American embassies, two truck bombs, two terrorist attacks just nine minutes apart in neighboring countries over the coast, Kenya and Tanzania. Gary Berntsen, any veteran CIA officer, rushed in order to headquarters within Langley, Virginia. BERNTSEN: While we had been having 1 regarding these meeting, CNN ended up being being broadcast. And Also anyone had people travelling on the wreckage. AMANPOUR: Much More when compared with 200 dead, greater than 4,000 injured. That had been powering this carnage, and why? BERNTSEN: That ended up being assumed right away in which this is the Hezbollah attack. AMANPOUR: Hezbollah because the militant group had attacked U.S. targets inside the past. Yet the actual CIA is at for a surprise. two investigative teams had been dispatched for you to Africa. Berntsen led the actual search team within Tanzania. BERNTSEN: We obtain there, faces torn off your building. This looks just like a tornado features gone via and also sucked each piece of furniture out of every room along with in to the hallways. AMANPOUR: Inside eight days, there were leads and suspects, along using a stunning realization: Osama bin Laden had lived approximately his threat. His al Qaeda terrorists had just struck his or her 1st direct blows in their holy war against the United States. The attacks had been carefully planned. MOHAMMED: My title can be Ali Mohammed. AMANPOUR: This kind of man, Ali Mohammed, was simply no ordinary al Qaeda operative. He married any Californian within 1985, and also became an American citizen. He joined the actual U.S. Army, and within the end would assist train U.S. particular forces. He appears here on a military panel. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MOHAMMED: Your fundamentalists, it indicates the people, they try to set up an Islamic state based about the Islamic Sharia. (END VIDEO CLIP) AMANPOUR: Inside 1998, even now serving within the U.S. Army, Ali Mohammed produced an unauthorized trip to Afghanistan. He joined your war against the Russians getting fought simply by Afghan militias along with mujahedeen, just like Osama bin Laden. Yet, the particular extremely next year, he received an honorable discharge from the U.S. military. BERGEN: Ali Mohammed is really a actually interesting character, kind of like a double agent. From the same period which he was a U.S. Army sergeant and also operating from special forces headquarters throughout Fort Bragg, North Carolina, he has been also intimately involved together with al Qaeda, coaching bin Laden's bodyguards. DANIEL COLEMAN, FORMER FBI AGENT: Ali Mohammed had done what they call casing of the American Embassy inside Nairobi inside December of 1993, a new five-year span between casing and operation. AMANPOUR: and listen as to the Ali Mohammed said in a U.S. court. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "My surveillance files as well as photographs were reviewed simply by Osama bin Laden. Bin Laden looked over the image in the American Embassy, as well as pointed in order to in which a truck could go as a suicide bomber." AMANPOUR: Almost a couple weeks following the bombings the particular U.S. responded along with force. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WILLIAM J. CLINTON, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Today, I ordered our armed forces in order to strike at terrorist-related facilities throughout Afghanistan as well as Sudan. (END VIDEO CLIP) AMANPOUR: Throughout Afghanistan, the U.S. goal ended up being bin Laden himself. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CLINTON: Our forces targeted certainly one of probably your most active terrorist bases within the world. We have got reason to trust in which a gathering involving key terrorist leaders ended up being to adopt location there today. (END VIDEO CLIP) AMANPOUR: Yet the actual U.S. would miss its target. Abu Jandal had been among bin Laden's bodyguards in Afghanistan. Within an uncommon recorded interview with all the "Al-Quds Al-Arabi" newspaper, he described how bin Laden escaped the actual U.S. attack in the city associated with Khost. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ABU JANDAL, FORMER CHIEF BIN LADEN BODYGUARD (through translator): I remember when we reached a new crossroads in between Khost as well as Kabul. Bin Laden checked out me and also said: "Abu Jandal, what would you think? where do you imagine we should go? To End Up Being Able To Khost or to Kabul?" I said, "Let's go to Kabul to be able to visit our comrades." (END VIDEO CLIP) AMANPOUR: In Which chance selection saved bin Laden's life. In the particular duration of your U.S. missiles attack, Prince Turki al-Faisal, the actual head involving Saudi intelligence, ended up being pressing Afghanistan's government for bin Laden's extradition. AL-FAISAL: I went there in June '98. I spoke for you to Mullah Omar. Initially, he had been amenable to the idea. AMANPOUR: Mullah Omar ended up being your leader in the Taliban, the totalitarian regime that offers been fighting to show Afghanistan into an uncompromising Islamic state. After the U.S. missile strikes, Prince Turki al-Faisal achieved together with Mullah Omar the 2nd time. AL-FAISAL: I ended up being returned for you to Kandahar, to remind Mullah Omar associated with his promise. and this time, when I -- when I did that, Mullah Omar denied entirely that he had developed a promise. VAHID MOJDEH, FORMER TALIBAN FOREIGN MINISTRY WORKER (through translator): My name is actually Vahid Mojdeh. I met Osama bin Laden between 1984 and also 1985 within Peshawar, during the jihad. AMANPOUR: Within your 1990s, Vahid Mojdeh worked inside the Taliban's Ministry involving Foreign Affairs. I met him in Kabul, Afghanistan, pertaining to his 1st interview in Western television. AMANPOUR (on camera): How do Osama bin Laden acquire the particular support and also the backing with the Taliban leadership? MOJDEH (through translator): Osama knew what tend to be the Taliban needed. for example, if they wanted Toyota pickup trucks, Osama will give them 10. Then, the actual Taliban would go back as well as tell Mullah Omar which it was Osama who was simply donating each one associated with these trucks. Within this way, bin Laden created himself even closer towards the Taliban. AMANPOUR (voice-over): This really is where, Mojdeh says, Osama bin Laden stayed when in Kabul. But bin Laden failed to stay on this residence or even any kind of location for extremely long. MOJDEH (through translator): Osama had been constantly about the move. Along With he wouldn't talk on a telephone, because there is usually the possibility of becoming targeted. AMANPOUR: in fact, bin Laden was a target. Within 1996, Michael Scheuer helped make the CIA's bin Laden unit, which in turn pinpointed your al Qaeda leader's exact area on a amount of occasions. MICHAEL SCHEUER, FORMER CHIEF OF CIA BIN LADEN UNIT: Throughout fact, the initial time we had an chance to capture bin Laden, every thing had been on the proper track until they found several swing set equipment in the farm exactly where -- exactly where bin Laden resided. And Also that they said, oh, God. there's children. They Will thought, oh my God, we can get criticized if we do this. AMANPOUR: So, they didn't. Osama bin Laden, America's nearly all wanted, had escaped, along with was liberated to continue his holy war against the United States. Shortly after the terrorist attacks on the a couple of U.S. embassies, this man, Abdal Rahim al- Nashiri, approached bin Laden using a new scheme. A Couple Of years of planning followed. On October 7, 2000, in the Yemeni Port regarding Aden, a couple of al Qaeda suicide bombers steered their little boat up to the USS Cole. His Or Her bomb blew the gaping hole inside the Navy destroyer, and killed 17 American sailors. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CLINTON: To End Up Being Able To those who attacked them, we say: you won't look pertaining to a safe harbor. We will discover you. and justice will prevail. (END VIDEO CLIP) AMANPOUR: Yet your U.S. didn't retaliate. And, four several weeks following your bombing in the Cole, bin Laden praised his holy warriors at the wedding associated with his son throughout Afghanistan. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BIN LADEN (through translator): in Aden, your small men rose up regarding holy war. (END VIDEO CLIP) AMANPOUR: Perhaps then, Osama bin Laden ended up being previously planning yet another attack, a lot more sinister, more deadly compared to anyone actually imagined. (END VIDEOTAPE) (COMMERCIAL BREAK) MALIKA EL AROUD, SAW OSAMA BIN LADEN (through translator): The Majority Of Muslims enjoy him, just similar to I enjoy him myself. This ended up being Osama bin Laden which stood up against the greatest enemy inside the world, your United States. AMANPOUR: Malika el Aroud loves Osama bin Laden for the exact same reasons that inspire his followers round the world, bin Laden's unquestioned piety, his selection of faith over fortune. EL AROUD (through translator): He sets an extremely excellent example, because he's a person regarding great wealth which shared his funds as well as knew to be able to say, voila, here, this isn't mine. AMANPOUR: Malika el Aroud, a devout Muslim whom emigrated via Morocco like a child, was surviving in Belgium when the lady initial found Osama bin Laden about television. His image mesmerized your ex and your ex husband, Abdessater Dahmane. EL AROUD (through translator): He ended up being watching. Right now there was obviously a fascination, any love. That ended up being extremely clear, and also I felt the particular same. Osama had beauty throughout his face. The idea is really a stunning face. BIN LADEN: (speaking foreign language) GRAPHIC: Might God give victory to the younger men that perform jihad for you to earn His approval. Might God give us patience. EL AROUD (through translator): When you listen to his voice, celebrate you need to always be able to fully stand up correct away and leave and also be part of him. AMANPOUR: Along With that's what your ex husband does when he traveled to Afghanistan throughout 2000. Malika El Aroud followed the next year. Existence together with bin Laden meant living without. EL AROUD (through translator): There were windows without having glass, just a huge hole within the wall. And Also it had been the middle of winter. Generally there had been simply no bathroom, zero kitchen. We really believed we had gone back again to the center ages. AMANPOUR: her husband, whom had spent six months within al Qaeda training camps, was handed a secret deadly assignment, 1 that would transfer bin Laden closer to be able to his ultimate goal. EL AROUD (through translator): He informed me he'd be residence throughout 15 days. AMANPOUR: Which could be the final moment she would at virtually any time observe him. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My identify will be Baker Atyani. and I fulfilled with bin Laden on the 21st regarding June 2001, within Kandahar City, Afghanistan. AMANPOUR: Within the summertime associated with 2001, Baker Atyani has been working for the Center East Broadcasting Middle in Pakistan when al Qaeda contacted him making him an offer, an interview along with bin Laden. Atyani had been taken up Kandahar. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I went for the bedroom (ph). Osama was there. He stand up, and which he shook hands and that will he stated welcome. AMANPOUR: Additionally there, the particular Egyptian, Ayman al-Zawahiri. (on camera) What has been the impression involving Ayman al-Zawahiri? BAKER ATYANI, EGYPTIAN: I don't believe that Ayman al-Zawahiri has been below your leadership regarding Osama bin Laden. However the particular impression that I study I got from the meeting, that I get 2 leaders with the same place. AMANPOUR: Thus they're equals? ATYANI: It looks like they're equal, because all involving us have their really own point regarding view. AMANPOUR (voice-over): Bin Laden informed Atyani which he could not do the job interview because his host, the Taliban, did not want him to produce incendiary public statements. but bin Laden along with Zawahiri did sit regarding this photo opportunity, and therefore they were built using a message, yet another dire warning which bin Laden wanted broadcast to the world. ATYANI: These People stated subsequent couple associated with weeks will carry a large surprise. We will target American along with Israeli installations. Now, Osama himself appeared as if he has been very happy, and in which he smiled. AMANPOUR (on camera): Along With that that was your own response to this? ATYANI: Well, I think it had been big news. I advised my channel that will his followers were telling me that the coffin company will increase within the states, the United States. AMANPOUR (voice-over): once again, bin Laden had telegraphed his intentions to the world. The Actual warning was broadcast a bit more than two months prior to always be able to the attacks regarding 9/11. And your warnings continued for you to mount. Upon August 6, unbeknownst towards the American public, President George Bush received this highly classified memo, "bin Laden decided for you to strike within U.S." In it, this paragraph: "FBI information since that period signifies patterns associated with suspicious activity on this nation constant with preparations for hijackings or other forms of attacks, including current surveillance of federal buildings in New York. Then in September 9 in Afghanistan, your final hint in which bin Laden was ready in order to strike America. the assassination regarding Ahmad Shah Masoud, a buddy with the U.S. and also legendary leader of the Northern Alliance, the formidable Afghan militia. BERGEN: Masoud was a brilliant military commander. He was fighting the Soviets extremely successfully through the '80s, somebody that both bin Laden as well as the Taliban observed as getting a threat for you to him, this charismatic, brilliant military commander. and throughout fact, he ended up being the final obstacle which stood involving the Taliban overpowering the complete involving Afghanistan, while he kept fighting these to the bitter end. AMANPOUR: A Couple Of men claiming to be television reporters arranged interviews with Masoud. That They were suicide bombers armed with explosives. 1 had these strapped to his body, the other hidden inside the camera. BERGEN: There's no doubt that bin Laden ordered your assassination associated with Masoud. He knew the 9/11 attacks would probably provoke a few type of American reaction, and that will he required the actual Taliban in order to protect him. so what he gave them had been the one thing they will desired most, which ended up being Masoud's head on the plate. AMANPOUR: the explosion killed Masoud. Additionally, it killed one of the 2 attackers, the cameraman. Another assassin had been executed by simply Masoud's men. He had been Abdessater Dahmane, Malika El Aroud's husband. This kind of have been his secret mission, and he as well as she had been very proud. EL AROUD (through translator): of course, it is actually a heroic act. It was obviously a extremely courageous act. Individuals originated in a long way away to congratulate me, to hold me within their arms. It's extraordinary to become the actual widow of the martyr throughout Islam. AMANPOUR: Bin Laden himself covered your ex husband's debts. EL AROUD (through translator): I received the payment. The Actual individual who gave me the particular envelope declared it had been coming from Sheikh Osama. AMANPOUR: 2 al Qaeda agents had calmly taken their particular lives to kill Ahmad Shah Masoud. and two days later, 19 various other al Qaeda terrorists would hold out bin Laden's guarantee for you to America. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (speaking foreign language) GRAPHIC: This could be America filled with fear, from your north to always be able to south, as well as east to west. AMANPOUR: September 11, 2001, Osama bin Laden brings his bloody holy war to America, an agenda hatched a prolonged time before. Nineteen al Qaeda members, four hijacked planes, any suicide mission that killed some 3,000 folks within New York, Washington, D.C., and also Pennsylvania. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (speaking foreign language) GRAPHIC: We calculated ahead involving time your number of enemy casualties. I had been probably the particular most optimistic of these all. AMANPOUR: Osama bin Laden had, once again, created great on his threats. BERGEN: Bin Laden believes which he's carrying out God's will as well as which if he doesn't do what he's doing, that God will punish him. He usually believes in which God can be telling him what things to do. AMANPOUR: A Couple Of several weeks following 9/11, Pakistani journalist Hamid Mir interviewed Osama bin Laden close to Kabul. The idea had been your terrorist leader's simply print interview since the attacks. MIR: Throughout that will interview, his major objective would happen to end up being able to be to convey a message that this can be not the conclusion of the war. This really is exactly the beginning. He ended up being stating it once more and again. AMANPOUR (on camera): How does he seem? was he nervous? was he anxious? Does he seem like he has been hunted? MIR: He was not nervous. He has been very confident, smiling. AMANPOUR (voice-over): Some Other 9/11 conspirators also sought after the actual media. Yosri Fouda, the actual London bureau chief for Al Jazeera television, was operating on this documentary when an anonymous phone caller offered a new stunning exclusive. YOSRI FOUDA, LONDON BUREAU CHIEF, AL JAZEERA: they wouldn't say specifically what this kind of exclusive stuff would be. UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): someone known as me along with stated access it a plane as well as come to Karachi. I followed your orders I ended up being given. AMANPOUR: Inside Karachi, Fouda was blindfolded as well as driven to some constructing exactly where his promised exclusive will be revealed. UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): While I stood at the entranceway step, I realized that the man opening the door had been none besides Khalid Shaikh Mohamed. FOUDA: Khalid Shaikh Mohamed introduced himself first because the head of the al Qaeda military committee, and then he introduced Ramzi Binalshibh since the coordinator of September 11. AMANPOUR: How does Shaikh Mohamed, that studied engineering in a university within the United States, conceive the 9/11 attacks? FOUDA: in the start that they do contemplate attacking any number of nuclear facilities. These People said, "Well, we considered it within the beginning, nevertheless we made the particular decision not to complete it regarding now." AMANPOUR: Ramzi Binalshibh explained to end up being able to Fouda the targets had been symbolic, that the Globe Trade Middle symbolized American economic domination. FOUDA: As Well As the particular Pentagon could be the symbol of the military may well inside America, Capitol Hill, the particular symbol involving democracy throughout America. AMANPOUR: Khalid Shaikh Mohamed had approached Osama bin Laden again inside 1996 with all the concept of hijacking planes and slamming them straight into U.S. buildings. Throughout the next five years of planning, bin Laden has been involved with almost every detail. BERGEN: He selected that the lead hijackers had been likely to be. He selected the key targets. and when he permitted a certain quantity regarding flexibility about the timing with the attacks, it absolutely was -- a person know, he had been calling the actual shots. AMANPOUR: Upon October 7, your United States Associated With America struck again with lightning success. Afghanistan ended up being overrun throughout weeks. GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Our military forces and in addition the forces of our allies and many Afghans seeking a a lot better future, are usually liberating Afghanistan. BERGEN: Interestingly, there's been any large quantity of internal criticism inside al Qaeda about the 9/11 attacks. This could be surprising, I think, for you to many people. but al Qaeda insiders were saying, anyone know, this was any tactical achievement nevertheless a new strategic disaster. We lost our base within Afghanistan. The Particular Taliban will zero longer exists, much more or less. Our group may be very much damaged. Bin Laden's son, Omar, left him. He basically believed to his father, these attacks were dumb. they had been stupid. We've got this 800-pound gorilla after us now. and throughout fact, "I'm planning to leave." As Well As he left Afghanistan and your man went together to Saudi Arabia, and in which he basically offers washed his hands involving his father. AMANPOUR: Upon November 12, Kabul ended up being overtaken through an Afghan militia allied using the United States. the Taliban were routed, along with bin Laden ran to the one refuge he knew best, your Afghan mountains. BERGEN: Bin Laden went alongside to Tora Bora. Along With it isn't surprising he would not. Tora Bora is extremely defensible. It's 10,000 feet up. It's a spot he knew really well. He's, a person know, been planning and also out of that location for more than any decade. AMANPOUR: one newspaper reporter was handed an uncommon glimpse of bin Laden's mountain hideaway. ABDEL BARI ATWAN, JOURNALIST: My identify is actually Abdel Bari Atwan. I satisfied Osama bin Laden throughout Afghanistan throughout Tora Bora throughout November 1996. AMANPOUR: Bin Laden permitted Abdel Bari Atwan, the actual editor inside chief in the London based "Al-Quds al-Arabi", to shoot photographs. ATWAN: He loved Tora Bora while he felt safe within Tora Bora. The cave truly has been divided into two rooms. The very first room ended up being one thing like a living room. A Person get beds and mats about the floor. As Well As you have shelves regarding books, the vast majority of it theological books. He explained he feels safe in these caves. He is aware of it is very a hardship on anyone to occur and adhere to him there. AMANPOUR: Nevertheless bin Laden had been wrong. He ended up being followed, tracked simply by U.S. intelligence along with Afghan militias. That They had Osama bin Laden within their crosshairs. He has been cornered. or so they thought. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) AMANPOUR (voice-over): December 2001, any relentless bombing campaign. Air strikes thundered by means of the actual treacherous mountains associated with eastern Afghanistan. The Particular battle of Tora Bora had begun. Osama bin Laden, the particular jackal of 9/11, along with hundreds of al Qaeda fighters had finally been cornered, or therefore it seemed. BERNTSEN: We brought in Spectre gunships that can easily place the bullet in every inch of your football field. AMANPOUR: Gary Berntsen has been the actual leader of the key CIA paramilitary unit which had pursued bin Laden since he had fled Kabul. Along With now your CIA had been sure it knew where he was, thanks throughout huge portion to a radio taken off a defunct al Qaeda fighters. BERNTSEN: We listened to bin Laden with regard to a couple regarding days using that radio, listened to his communications among him and the men. We listened in order to him apologize to them pertaining to having led these people into this trap and having led all of them right into a location where they will be having airstrikes referred for you to as upon them just relentlessly. AMANPOUR: A Lot More when compared with two weeks associated with bombing, solid intelligence, your U.S. had thrown its greatest bombs, its most sophisticated missiles, bunker busters, daisy cutters, at bin Laden, yet somehow, some way, it had been not enough. BERGEN: the policy of utilizing very limited quantity of U.S. Particular Forces around the ground calling inside airstrikes plus a huge quantity of Afghan ground troops worked brilliantly from overthrowing the actual Taliban, yet at the battle associated with Tora Bora, it had been the total disaster. AMANPOUR (on camera): The Particular strategy had been with regard to Afghan along with Pakistani soldiers to bar any escape routes, but Osama bin Laden managed to be the waste through the mountains. and the actual mission to always be able to capture as well as eliminating the al Qaeda leader failed. by many accounts, the main issue wasn't enough American soldiers around the ground. BERGEN: By Simply my calculation, there were much more American journalists when compared with American soldiers in the battle involving Tora Bora, along with that fact type of speaks pertaining to itself. BERNTSEN: Within the very first a couple of or even three events of December, I would write an email again for you to Washington, recommending the insertion involving U.S. forces on the ground. I has been searching for 600 to end up being able to 800 Rangers, roughly any battalion. they in no way came. AMANPOUR (voice-over): In Addition hunting bin Laden within Tora Bora, then Afghan militia leader, General Mohamed Zahir (ph). (on camera) Perform you've virtually any concept the amount of American soldiers had been at the battle of Tora Bora? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right now there was not more than 50, 60, I think. There wasn't more than which at that time. AMANPOUR (voice-over): Osama bin Laden, seeking frail and also significantly older when compared with his 44 years following your huge onslaught associated with Tora Bora, had escaped again. Ever the actual media-conscious terrorist, bin Laden today continues to supply his message upon video as well as audiotapes. His phrases along with threats are usually vitriolic rants in order to many Americans. but for you to people who understand him as well as hunt him, bin Laden's missives have excellent meaning along with ominous revelations. SCHEUER: I feel a component of the reason why in which there hasn't been an attack since 9/11 is he had been criticized amongst his peers for that attack regarding 9/11. AMANPOUR: Criticized by simply fellow extremists regarding certainly not following, as they observe it, the particular guidance with the holy prophet Mohamed for attacking an enemy. SCHEUER: so he's invested the final 4 a lengthy time very much addressing individuals issues along together with his audience. from your Muslim perspective, the prophet usually demanded that will before you attack a person an individual warn these people and you provide these the opportunity to become Islam. AMANPOUR: As Well As that's precisely what bin Laden later on did. BIN LADEN: (speaking foreign languages) GRAPHIC: I'm calling you towards the path associated with happiness in Earth. To End Up Being Able To rescue anyone I'm calling you to follow Islam. SCHEUER: Bin Laden in three occasions, Zawahiri in two occasions, get offered to become our books inside a conversion to Islam, proclaiming that things are forgiven in the event you convert. AMANPOUR: Scheuer says bin Laden additionally believed he's fulfilled your prophet's last requirement regarding launching another, much more enormous attack, a spiritual blessing to become able to kill countless Americans with weapons associated with mass destruction. SCHEUER: Any judgment from a youthful cleric inside Saudi Arabia which authorizes your Mujahideen, created large, to use nuclear weapons against the united States along with -- together with capping your casualties in 10 million. AMANPOUR (on camera): He's had an approval, a spiritual approval regarding ten million deaths? SCHEUER: Yes. AMANPOUR (voice-over): Actually on the run, bin Laden remains probably the particular most potent force inside militant Islam. His influence, much too apparent in the deadly bombings in Madrid in 2004, inside London throughout 2005 as well as inside the ongoing bloodshed unleashed through al Qaeda in Iraq. But what if bin Laden were eliminated? Precisely what then? BERGEN: Within the actual longer time I feel it would offer a tremendous boost towards the power associated with bin Laden's ideas, since this concept of martyrdom will be this kind of well-liked one. I feel it could boost which mythical persona. AMANPOUR: Nowadays bin Laden's whereabouts remain a mystery. However many think your 49- year-old terrorist will be hiding somewhere within the rugged and mountainous border region among Pakistan as well as Afghanistan. BERGEN: U.S. intelligence sources figure out now he's high north, virtually up for the border along with China about the Afghan-Pakistan border inside an region known as Chitral. Remote, inaccessible. The Particular difficulty is, is that U.S. military forces can't go into Pakistan. The Particular Pakistan government won't allow that. AMANPOUR: Bin Laden has long vowed which he will not always be captured alive. Abu Jandal was once Osama's chief bodyguard. Within an infrequent recorded interview having an Arabic newspaper, Jandal recounts bin Laden's strict orders. JANDAL (through translator): Sheikh Osama gave me the pistol to utilize just inside case I involved in order to belong to enemy hands. the pistol had just two bullets so as for you to kill him in order that he would not be taken alive. AMANPOUR (on camera): Dead or alive, what will the near future associated with Osama bin Laden's jihad appear like? Those who recognize him think in which his holy war as well as the violence its ignited will continue long after he's gone. and almost all more than the planet individuals are asking yourself exactly where he will strike next. Bin Laden himself is composing the next chapter. He wants his own kids to carry about the fight. (voice-over) Since 9/11, bin Laden is now any father once again to some daughter he named Saphia (ph), after getting a woman famous with regard to killing any Jewish spy. MIR: He explained that after my daughter will grow, the girl will even kill the enemies of Islam. AMANPOUR: Via 1 generation for the next, a new legacy of terror. Pertaining To Osama bin Laden, his holy war can be far, far from over. BERGEN: I consider bin Laden has been productive in creating a thousand some other bin Ladens, which in turn we is going to be dealing with pertaining to a minimum of a new generation. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... trusted against my individuals just about all over the actual world. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What you have witnessed now is only the beginning. BIN LADEN: (speaking foreign language) GRAPHIC: you the American people, I speak with a person today about the very best method to steer clear of another Manhattan. I want to speak concerning war and also its brings about and also its consequences. I inform you security is surely an crucial aspect in life. As anyone spoil our security, we will spoil yours. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) TO ORDER a VIDEO OF THIS TRANSCRIPT, PLEASE CALL 800-CNN-NEWS OR USE OUR SECURE ONLINE ORDER FORM LOCATED AT www.fdch.com