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CNN Presents: Throughout your Footsteps regarding bin Laden
Aired August 23, 2006 - 21:00 Â ET
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He was obviously a youthful gentleman, extremely gentle, extremely polite.
He said, "If I discover a person again, I'll kill you."
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He may be the most favored Muslim leader in the Islamic world today.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Whenever you hear his voice celebrate you need to be able to operate
proper away, to grow for you to be outlined on him as well as fight.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Exactly what he's great at is actually killing civilians.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's extraordinarily crucial that people kill bin Laden.
CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Osama
bin Laden will become the world's many wanted terrorist. He haunts Americans as well as an
incredible amount of additional around the world.
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AMANPOUR: He additionally inspires many to battle in the way which he intends to become long,
expensive and also bloody. I'm Christiane Amanpour throughout Peshawar, Pakistan, the birthplace
associated with bin Laden's terrorist organization al Qaeda.
Not way from here just over the border within Afghanistan he disappeared shortly following 9/11. As
Well As now, five-years later, we still do not really know where he is as well as when he'll strike
again.
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AMANPOUR (voice-over): He wasn't any born leader and the man didn't often despise the particular
west, what exactly changed bin Laden? What shaped this son associated with Saudi prosperity to the
nearly all feared terrorist of our time?
To realize more about Osama bin Laden, in order to carry an individual his whole story, we visited
his home, his headquarters, his hideouts. We journeyed within his footsteps through Saudi Arabia to
end up being able to Pakistan for you to Afghanistan.
We searched with regard to answers via those who actually recognize him, his childhood friend.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He in simply no way talked about the particular American folks in the nasty
way.
AMANPOUR: His English teacher.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He understood an acceptable quantity of English however he has been
rather reticent within expressing himself.
AMANPOUR: The Actual man which married his sister along with ended up being bin Laden's closest
friend.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Osama often mentioned his father all the time, his father, his model.
AMANPOUR: Men whom fought together with him in the early days as well as noticed another side
involving Osama bin Laden.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: While bin Laden used to know the particular explosions he utilized to leap
and the particular man accustomed to run away. I nevertheless remember that me and also my elder
and also younger brother we used to laugh.
AMANPOUR: We fulfilled those that revere him.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): He may be the person who stood up against the
biggest enemy in the world, the actual United States, so we adore him for that.
OSAMA BIN LADEN, NOVEMBER 11, 2001: When avenging your killing of our own people can be
terrorism, if killing those who kill our kids is terrorism, then history should be a witness which we
have got been terrorists.
AMANPOUR: He's the terrorist with stunning media savvy.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He has been foreshadowing a strategy which was previously throughout
effect.
AMANPOUR: He stood a double agent.
ALI MOHAMMED: My name is Ali Mohammed.
AMANPOUR: working deep inside the U.S. military and that will he offers repeatedly warned
America which he is actually likely to attack.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They Will stated the subsequent couple weeks will have a big surprise.
AMANPOUR: those who've prayed along with him, lived using him as well as fought for him reveal
the tale involving his gradual however deadly transformation from the quiet, religious boy for the
angry voice associated with holy war.
Osama bin Laden spent my youth inside the boom town regarding Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, a new city
his father assisted build.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Saudi Arabia inside the 1960s was, of course, any fantastically wealthy
kingdom. Jeddah had been its major door towards the west. It had been its major port around the
Red Sea and a huge quantity associated with constructing getting place.
BRIAN FYFIELD-SHAYLER: I'm Brian Fyfield-Shayler. I taught Osama bin Laden English inside
Saudi Arabia inside 1968 for you to 1969. Osama sat regarding two-thirds regarding the way back
again around the correct by the windows. He wasn't an exceptional student academically. Upon one
other hand, he was a extremely bright boy.
AMANPOUR: Even though Arabic and also religious instruction took priority, the particular al-Fagr
(ph) school, one of the the majority of notable schools in the kingdom, was stunning progressive.
FYFIELD-SHAYLER: The Particular boys were built together with a western uniform. These People
had trousers and shirts and jackets as well as shoes.
AMANPOUR: Fyfield-Shayler had taught a quantity of bin Laden's brothers. Osama's loved ones has
been well identified in Saudi Arabia. His father's career ended up being the actual stuff of legend.
FYFIELD-SHAYLER: the bin Ladens had been practically a new storybook success.
AMANPOUR: in Saudi Arabia, the bin Laden identify is everywhere. It's a vast empire with humble
beginnings. the family patriarch, Mohammed, seen here throughout uncommon photographs, rose
from the menial laborer to head among the particular largest and most effective construction
companies within the middle East.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He built the actual airport. He built virtually everything which was standing
a lot more than 2 meters substantial ended up built simply by bin Laden.
AMANPOUR: Mohammed bin Laden's enterprise acumen will be passed onto his son Osama, who a
long time later would draw in these same skills in order to create his terror network. Exactly what
helps make this uncommon glimpse of Mohammed bin Laden so extraordinary is the actual fact that
he's seen here along with Faisal al-Saud, the particular man who'd become the Saudi king. It
highlights bin Laden's extremely close relationship with Saudi royalty, the link critical for you to his
extraordinary success.
FYFIELD-SHAYLER: Along With he had been a significant rough, unsophisticated character and no
airs, graces.
AMANPOUR: Unsophisticated but fabulously wealthy along with Mohammed bin Laden had many
wives, concerning 20 almost all tolled, repeatedly divorcing as well as re-marrying.
FYFIELD-SHAYLER: As Well As the existing man was recognized to possess an eye pertaining to
alarmingly young wives. These kind of were very usually fairly unsophisticated easy girls in the --
from your villages.
AMANPOUR: He had greater than 50 children. Osama came to end up being able to be within 1957
here on this Riyadh neighborhood. He had been the only child his mother had with Mohammed bin
Laden before they will divorced. Then, bin Laden and the mother Alia gone to reside in Jeddah and
lived here apart from the various other wives along with children. Mohammed bin Laden died when
Osama was just 10 years old.
FYFIELD-SHAYLER: The Particular institution ended up being abuzz with all the information that
will Mohammed bin Laden had been killed inside a plane crash. AMANPOUR: Together With thus
many siblings it's tough to say how shut Osama ended up being to his father as well as how the loss
affected him. This photograph from the early 1970s shows a quantity of the many bin Laden brothers
as well as sisters on the vacation within Sweden.
Although it is not certain, a quantity of believe that this smiling boy, second from your right, can be
Osama when he involved 13 a long time old. He has been quiet and also shy. His teacher says he
rarely spoke up inside class.
FYFIELD-SHAYLER: He didn't demonstrate any kind of specific indications of becoming a new
leader amongst men.
KHALID BATARFI: Yes, well he would be a shy boy. He wouldn't talk unless he needed to. He would
listen more. I'm Khalid Batarfi. I achieved Osama bin Laden in the early 1970s whenever we lived on
this neighborhood.
AMANPOUR: This specific non-descript middle-class Jeddah neighborhood is when Batarfi, then get
older 12, and bin Laden three years older became neighbors and greatest buddies going towards the
mosque together, playing together, watching TV together, among their favorite exhibits American
westerns and Bruce Lee movies.
BATARFI: We would watch cowboys movies and also karate movies, issues that, an individual know,
action movies.
AMANPOUR: Batarfi took us towards the area where he and also bin Laden played soccer as
teenagers.
BATARFI: And Also just considering it brings the lot of memories and I enjoyed getting a captain
really, a person know, telling people things to do.
AMANPOUR: In the soccer area Batarfi has been the actual leader, Osama the particular follower.
BATARFI: Nevertheless I would make sure he understands what to complete and the man was a
excellent soldier. He would follow orders. Typically because he ended up being taller than many of
us as well as older however play inside the front because this way he could use his head inside a
score.
AMANPOUR: Batarfi says the teenage Osama would generally consider the substantial road. He
remembers a period his pal had been being bullied.
BATARFI: And Consequently I went operating to the guy along with I pushed him far from Osama as
well as solved issue this way. but then Osama found me as well as said, "You know, in the huge event
you waited a couple of minutes I might have solved the problem peacefully." So, this is the actual
kind of guy who'd usually think about solving problems peacefully.
AMANPOUR: Whilst Batarfi took the lead around the playing field, when it stumbled on religion
there was absolutely no query Osama is at charge.
BATARFI: From the actual mosque we utilized to pray, yes, yes.
AMANPOUR: 5 occasions every day devout Muslims turn towards the holy city of Mecca in order to
pray. Osama had been usually amongst them. BATARFI: Pertaining To him it absolutely was a new
must.
AMANPOUR: This is one thing of a mystery why this son of your wealthy loved ones has been drawn
to such rigid religious beliefs. More Than time, Batarfi observed his best friend grow for you to be a
lot more of your fundamentalist striving to contact home according to his ultra strict interpretation
with the holy Koran.
BATARFI: no pictures, absolutely no music, and next not really TV unless there's news.
AMANPOUR: Osama's religious devotion went beyond living a straightforward pious life. He had
begun to trust it had been his duty in order to prepare to one day fight with regard to as well as
defend Islam, Osama's training ground the desolate Saudi desert. The Particular son of your
multimillionaire has been now preparing to find a life without having luxuries or perhaps basic
essentials, your life as a holy warrior.
BATARFI: I heard from his brothers that whenever they're going there these people sleep around the
sand. There's no blanket if it's cold and, anyone know, just like soldiers.
AMANPOUR: Batarfi had absolutely no desire to participate Osama's army therefore the 2 pals
began to drift apart.
BATARFI: I would rather the beach. I was more romantic. A Person realize I ended up being thinking
regarding love. He ended up being pondering associated with love involving God.
AMANPOUR: Nevertheless how do Osama bin Laden's adore regarding God turn directly into a
mission to kill?
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AMANPOUR: (AUDIO GAP) King Abdulaziz School inside Jeddah.
JAMAL KHALIFA: I am Jamal Khalifa, the particular brother-in-law involving Osama bin Laden. The
Actual first-time I satisfied him inside King Abdulaziz university throughout 1976.
AMANPOUR: Your 21-year-old Khalifa as well as bin Laden became extremely close.
KHALIFA: He loved horses any lot, particularly the Arabian horses.
AMANPOUR: When bin Laden would journey about horseback to the Saudi desert however travel
with couple of supplies, always screening himself maybe inside preparation for a different life.
KHALIFA: We have our dates together with us in our pockets and also water. That's it. We sleep
about the sands.
AMANPOUR: Bin Laden also took his children, seen here, into the desert subjecting them towards
the exact same regimen. KHALIFA: So, at least the youngsters would believe sometimes they have to
be tough.
AMANPOUR: In spite of his wealth, bin Laden additionally insisted about couple of comforts in
home.
BATARFI: I visited visit him as well as I noticed that the apartment had been extremely bare. Right
now there had been no pictures. Your carpet was cheap. things were, you know, I wouldn't stay
there myself.
KHALIFA: He likes to become very, very, very simple.
PETER BERGEN, CNN TERRORISM ANALYST: Inside The demonstrate biz industry terms, bin
Laden has a fantastic again story. My identify will be Peter Bergen. I met Osama bin Laden in
eastern Afghanistan throughout March associated with 1997.
AMANPOUR: Peter Bergen, any CNN consultant, may end up being the author involving "The Osama
bin Laden I know." This particular documentary is situated in part on his groundbreaking reporting.
BERGEN: Here's the particular son of your billionaire who lives a really frugal, simple life. He's
sleeping on a floor. He's not necessarily utilizing air- conditioning, won't even consume cold h2o and
I consider this kind of easy life is among the reasons which his followers discover him attractive.
AMANPOUR: Bin Laden could not need lived the lifestyle of the wealthy man nevertheless according
to his close pal he do use his prosperity in order to be able to save the life involving his son.
BATARFI: His very first kid needed a few health-related attention.
AMANPOUR: Batarfi has been informed that will bin Laden took his son for the United States.
BATARFI: in Washington airport, Dulles Airport, individuals were astonished at the strategies by
which he dressed, his wife dressed. some of which were even taking photos and the particular man
had been type of joking about it. We had been similar to in a zoo.
BERGEN: Undoubtedly, bin Laden took his son pertaining to medical therapy to a western country
along with it's possibly your Usa or possibly the United Kingdom. There's a few sort of controversy
with regards to that. Nevertheless this would have been certainly one of the actual really uncommon
occasions when bin Laden truly traveled to the west.
AMANPOUR: In The Particular Program Of this time period while studying for his degree, bin Laden
labored construction tasks for his father's company.
KHALIFA: Osama always discuss his father all involving the time. Osama really loves his father a
entire lot and always he's attempting to imitate him inside his business as well as in his work.
AMANPOUR: Construction worker, university or college student, husband, father, along with
survivalist, Osama bin Laden ended up being leading 1 life whilst preparing for another. An heir in
order to one of Saudi Arabia's wealthiest family members he did not wish to be noticeable a
minimum of not yet.
KHALIFA: He doesn't like really to be a new leader, never place himself in the situation being a
leader.
AMANPOUR: Yet that might soon change. Bin Laden was about being trapped inside a movement
that might carry him from student for the leader of your holy war. It would end up being a religious
movement, one that will pit youthful Muslims from the establishment. That has been referred for you
to as Sawa (ph) or even the Islamic awakening.
KHALIFA: This had been your Sawa. at that time to help to make sure with regards to religion and
also regarding how to practice Islam.
BERGEN: Your Sawa ended up being the particular Islamic awakening in the 1970s. This was
specially attracting somebody similar to bin Laden that has currently been very religious because
Islamic awakening suggests that we're planning to generate much more just Islamic societies around
the Center East.
JAMAL KHASHOGGI, JOURNALIST: He originate from the generation regarding angry Islamists
whom wanted to alter the Muslim world. My title is actually Jamal Khashoggi. I satisfied Osama bin
Laden in 1987 inside Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.
AMANPOUR: Khashoggi had been himself caught up in the awakening. As a new Saudi journalist he
invested period using bin Laden in Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, and later inside Sudan.
(on camera): How has been Osama bin Laden influenced through the Muslim brotherhood?
KHASHOGGI: He began using the Muslim brotherhood throughout Saudi Arabia. He was greatly
influenced.
BERGEN: The Particular Muslim brotherhood was born inside Egypt along with once again and once
more bin Laden is actually relying on Egyptian ideas, Egyptian political organizations and Egyptian
folks and they tend to go him in the much more radical and also militant direction more than time.
AMANPOUR (voice-over): This kind of man, Syed Qutb, has been an inspiration for that Muslim
brotherhood. He had been executed in 1966 for the particular purpose many believe was a trumped
up charge of attempting to overthrow the actual Egyptian government.
His book "Milestones" was must reading with regard to jihadists but still is actually today. That
challenges the actual long accepted belief that holy war must only be waged responding to an
attack. Qutb justifies some thing new, holy war that will attacks your enemy first.
BERGEN: Just About All this stuff are now coming together for bin Laden, your Islamic awakening,
the particular fact that he's joined the Muslim brotherhood, the particular undeniable fact that he's
reading Syed Qutb along with these are politicizing him and giving him the particular concept that
people need to create a lot more perfect Islamic states round the Muslim world.
AMANPOUR: 1979 will be a new critical yr for the Islamic awakening. The Particular Ayatollah
Khomeini overthrew the actual Shah involving Iran. Americans had been taken hostage in the U.S.
Embassy. Muslim militants around the planet were electrified. Which same 12 months the actual
Grand Mosque within Mecca, the actual holiest associated with sites, became the battleground when
militants seized it and additionally the Saudi government submitted troops.
Osama bin Laden had been appalled that will this kind of holy place had been defiled. Along With
then 1 month later on the last blow. the Soviet Union, godless along with communist, invaded
Afghanistan, the Muslim country. This ended up being an affront in order to Islam.
One year, three monumental events that might alter bin Laden forever. The Actual once shy,
religious boy was ready to answer the actual call to some violent jihad and he would never appear
back.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He said, "If I observe anyone again, I'll kill you."
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AMANPOUR: 1979, Afghanistan, Soviet troops invade an Islamic nation. A New contact regarding
jihad from the infidels sounds all through the actual Muslim world, a new call raised through men
like Abdullah Azzam, the Palestinian cleric, charismatic as well as deeply spiritual. He will always be
the man who does mentor along with shape Osama bin Laden all through much of the 1980s.
HUTAIFA AZZAM: My name will be Hutaifa Azzam. I've been living with bin Laden pertaining to
more than eight years continuously you could say.
AMANPOUR: Hutaifa can be Abdullah Azzam's son. This could be his first interview for western
television.
AZZAM: My father had been teaching Islamic and also Arabic studies along with Osama bin Laden
had been studying engineering as well time.
AMANPOUR: Bin Laden was drawn for the influential cleric seen here within Afghanistan. He ended
up being the particular ideological force powering the actual call with regard to jihad and he
implored your young and impressionable Osama to comply with alongside with him.
AZZAM: In the finish of 1984, the conclusion associated with summer, my father informed him "You
get to go away using me. I'm leaving to Pakistan along with Afghanistan."
AMANPOUR: Nevertheless bin Laden ended up being not wanting to follow.
AZZAM: He said, "No. I can't depart Saudi Arabia without having your permission involving King
Fahd."
AMANPOUR: With this time, bin Laden was still deeply loyal in order to his family having its strong
ties towards the ruling home associated with Saud but the king encouraged volunteers in order to go
fight using the Afghans. Bin Laden responded. He created your move via Saudi Arabia to always be
able to Pakistan.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Folks contact me Abdullah Anas. I keep inside mind I met Osama in 1984
inside Abdullah Azzam's home in Islamabad.
AMANPOUR: Anas was one of many Arab Muslims recruited simply by Abdullah Azzam in order to
wage jihad throughout Afghanistan. He is seen here using Azzam and 2 regarding his sons Ibrahim
along with Hutaifa.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sheikh Abdullah ended up being the actual father figure of associated with
us. you can't imagine how he loved Osama bin Laden.
BERGEN: The Actual picture you get of bin Laden as of this point within his life he's shy, he's
retiring, he's monosyllabic. people barely get oneself a phrase from him. and he's completely
overshadowed by simply his mentor Abdullah Azzam, which is really a larger than existence
charismatic figure as well as somebody whom truly stood a father/son relationship using bin Laden.
AMANPOUR: I traveled here for the city of Peshawar, Pakistan on the border along with Afghanistan
to find out much more about bin Laden and the mentor Abdullah Azzam. Peshawar is a bustling
frontier town, your perfect gateway for smugglers, spies, mercenaries as well as Mujahadeen,
individuals holy warriors whom stumbled on fight from the Soviets in Afghanistan.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: you could get the arms. An Individual could acquire Kalashnikov. An
Individual can easily sell it. It's a wide open area, entirely open area.
AMANPOUR (on camera): The idea was at this neighborhood that will Osama Luxury Horse Farms
For Sale Mount Pleasant DC bin Laden along with Abdullah Azzam setup the actual headquarters of
a company they will referred for you to as Solutions Bureau. The idea would have been to assist
Muslim fighters heading into Afghanistan and in addition Afghan refugees fleeing the particular
Soviet Army.
(voice-over): the Solutions Bureau was operate simply by Azzam. Osama bin Laden ended up being
your financier, donating a few of their own fortune, and the cash he collected off their wealthy
Saudis.
(on camera): one of those houses, we're told, employed being any guest house, where the recruits
will come just before entering Afghanistan. They'd be offered weapons as well as clothing, also as
military and also ideological training. Bin Laden himself trained at among the camps.
AZZAM: Your coaching in weapons along with how to use weapon, the way to fight, the means to be
component of the actual battles. together we were together with bin Laden, yes.
AMANPOUR (voice-over): Bin Laden's period inside the shadow involving his mentor, Abdullah
Azzam, could be short-lived. Absolutely No longer content material in order to merely fund the
particular fight, bin Laden yearned to participate it. His countless hours as well as days in the harsh
Saudi desert without shelter as well as using couple of provisions had prepared him with regard to
this moment. It had been usually his belief which he ended up being destined to be any holy warrior.
BERGEN: I think he's usually modeled himself about the Prophet Mohammed and the Prophet
Mohammed had not been just a great religious figure but ended up being additionally somebody
whom personally battled your infidels. As Well As so, for bin Laden, it could become vital which you
carry on in the Prophet Mohammed's footsteps.
AMANPOUR: Regarding bin Laden the early times on the battlefield had been terrifying.
AZZAM: Whenever bin Laden used to listen to the particular explosions, he utilized to jump and in
which he accustomed to operate away. I nonetheless understand that me as well as my elder and
younger brother, we accustomed to laugh.
AMANPOUR: Yet several years on the battlefield would harden bin Laden. fear gave method to
ambition. Mohammed bin Laden's shy and reticent youthful son, Osama, once reluctant to lead, has
been now ready to end up being able to command his own all-Arab army within Afghanistan.
ABDULLAH ANAS, FORMER ARAB FIGHTER: Osama begun to take into consideration governing all
Arabs, just as much while he can as well as place them in a camp, in one front.
AMANPOUR: His mentor adamantly opposed this idea. The idea was the start of the rift that could
not heal.
AZZAM: Bin Laden went and the man accumulated their own camps. He accumulated his own front
and your man began performing their own battles. My father doesn't want Arab for you to perform
separately and also that can be what bin Laden does within 1987.
BERGEN: Bin Laden decided to produce this just about all Arab army because the youthful Arabs he
was recruiting were ready to martyr themselves, had been willing to take incredible individual
danger and it had been this group that will bin Laden molded to consider on the Soviets directly.
AMANPOUR: Their Particular very first test ended up being the battle of Jaji inside the Spring
regarding 1987. Azzam fought alongside bin Laden, who was suffering through reduced blood strain
levels inside the thin, mountain air.
AZZAM: The idea was obviously a very, extremely hard battle. and he joined your battle as they has
been ill and that will he had been having 1 of these low stress as well as my father informed him to
adopt respite, he refuses. As Well As he joined your battle pertaining to more than four days.
AMANPOUR: the Russians fell back. Jaji ended up being the first victory pertaining to bin Laden's
Arab army.
BERGEN: The idea wasn't a particularly significant moment within the Afghan war. Yet from the
psychological point associated with view, it had been really first of, type of, bin Laden's nearly
mythic persona, simply because a bunch involving Arabs had held off your Soviets. It got any large
amount of play within the middle East.
AMANPOUR: Your once reticent along with terrified bin Laden was now hailed as being a fearless
leader, a hero about the front lines of Jihad.
AZZAM: He's brave, and he's ready to offer his life. He's not a coward.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I visited the actual sight of the battle with him throughout Jaji.
AMANPOUR: Bin Laden invited journalist Jamal Khashoggi in order to Afghanistan. This was a little
bit of PR throughout his new campaign to end up being able to grow to end up being able to be
Osama, the actual general. Your beginning associated with his media strategy to draw in awareness
of himself, and the message, a new skill however come to perfect. Khashoggi took this picture, he
says the initial 1 ever printed of bin Laden.
(on camera): Thus way Osama, Jaji was obviously a recruiting tool.
KHASHOGGI: This was obviously a recruiting tool. The idea ended up being the commencement
regarding having an impartial front, where he get to become the Amir, the leader of those Arab
mujahedeen who're guarded around him.
AMANPOUR (voice-over): Throughout 1988, your Soviets, worn down along with demoralized, began
in order to withdraw coming from Afghanistan. Along With bin Laden, now battle-hardened,
returned to become able to Peshawar, the holy warrior, with out a new war. but this man would
quickly change that, Ayman al Zawahiri.
AYMAN AL ZAWAHIRI, BIN LADEN FOLLOWER: We are Muslims who's think inside their religion.
AMANPOUR: a radical Egyptian who would give bin Laden the particular enemy he has been
seeking for.
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AMANPOUR (voice-over): Arab fighters, most smiles, following your battle involving Jaji. they made
their own stand. The Actual Soviets, your infidels, were repelled. Within 1988, Osama bin Laden
emerged the particular hero, his exploits about this Afghan battlefield had been immortalized inside
Jihad magazine, printed through bin Laden himself and his awesome long-time mentor, Abdullah
Azzam. Your battle associated with Jaji made bin Laden, and he had been pleased to exploit his new
found fame.
AZZAM: Everybody mentioned he won the particular battle in Jaji. Newspapers, magazines,
everybody is actually referring to it. He became a hero.
AMANPOUR: Bin Laden's soaring confidence as well as abundant prosperity would soon entice those
looking to exploit this rising star, militants like Ayman al Zawahiri, an Egyptian doctor using
promises to separate bin Laden through his money, as well as from his mentor, Abdullah Azzam.
AZZAM: Your Egyptian informed him that in the big event you come, we will make an individual the
leader, consequently we could develop up our extremely own organization. We could give you, we
refer in order to it as Amir, we can provide an individual with your leader of the organization.
AMANPOUR: Zawahiri had expended three many years throughout Egypt's notorious prisons
pertaining to his Jihadist activities.
ZAWAHIRI: We want to speak to the entire world.
AMANPOUR: Embittered after years of torture at the hands with the Egyptian government, Zawahiri
has been decided to overthrow the secular regimes of the Center East. His wasn't a battle to find a
peace involving land. He wanted an Islamic globe with out borders.
ZAWAHIRI: We're Muslims. We are Muslims who think in their religion.
AMANPOUR: but Azzam disapproved involving Muslims fighting Muslims. With Regard To him, Holy
War involved defending Muslim lands contrary to the infidels. two divergent influences, one old, 1
new. This specific is your place bin Laden's transformation began, through warrior for you to
extremist.
BERGEN: Bin Laden had been increasingly getting influenced by Egyptian militants about
throughout his cycle have been declaring let's overthrow almost all of these secular governments
inside the Center East, and also Abdullah Azzam had been opposed to that because he didn't want
being section of whatever pitted Muslims against Muslims.
AMANPOUR: Armed using a radical, new ideology, bin Laden has been ready to always be able to
step out through at the actual rear of Azzam, ready to end up being able to lead his army about to
the subsequent war.
(on camera): And Also that army would take shape here, inside Peshawar, Pakistan, on this
neighborhood, exactly where Osama bin Laden lived. meetings were held, plans were made. This
specific is where al Qaeda ended up being born.
(voice-over): Along With necessities such as real minutes involving individuals 1st meetings, any
created record with the creation of an organization called al Qaeda, or even the base. These kinds of
notes obtained simply by CNN, are seen here for that first-time upon television.
BERGEN: Whenever al Qaeda was founded, there is zero thought of attacking your United States. In
Which would come much, significantly later. The Particular program was actually about coaching
individuals with regard to jihads outside Afghanistan.
AMANPOUR: The Particular minutes record bin Laden and one other attendees. Generally there had
been strict needs to grow to be outlined on al Qaeda, a few stunning ones. They Will must, with
regard to example, have good manners, and good references, plus they must recite an oath to
concentrate and also obey your superiors. Within al Qaeda's composition and also flow chart, bin
Laden showed that he has been his father's son.
BERGEN: Bin Laden comes out of your business background. His father has been one of probably
your most effective businessman within the middle East. Bin Laden himself studied at the university
or college therefore he modeled al Qaeda inside a rather sort of company model. He has been kind of
the actual CEO, there committees pertaining to military affairs, religious affairs, financial fairs along
with media affairs.
AMANPOUR: Al Qaeda created members indicator a jobs contract. Presently there was a benefits
package, vacations home, complete using round-trip airline tickets. Vacation requests had to be
submitted a pair of and a half several weeks ahead involving the journey date.
Recruits had been soon put to the test. Throughout February, 1989, the particular Soviets within the
last phases regarding their withdrawal left out a puppet Afghan communist government. for Osama
bin Laden along with al Qaeda, victory in Afghanistan had not been yet complete. they joined your
battle against the Afghan communists in Jalalabad, close for you to the Pakistan border.
EDWARD GIRARDET, BRITISH JOURNALIST: My name can be Edward Girardet and I 1st met
Osama bin Laden in 1989 throughout Kunar Province of Afghanistan.
AMANPOUR: Girardet, a new British journalist was covering the actual battle associated with
Jalalabad. He remembers any opportunity yet chilling encounter using bin Laden throughout the
fighting.
GIRARDET: We arrived with leading series as well as suddenly this very tall Arab came up to me,
walked up as well as said, "You know, what are an individual currently carrying out here?" As Well
As he said, "This is the jihad as well as you've zero right to become here and furthermore you must
leave."
AMANPOUR: Girardet had by simply no means heard of bin Laden, however for that subsequent 45
minutes, your mysterious Arab warrior spoke within English. Religion had been the subject
associated with discussion.
GIRARDET: and then as our conversation stumbled on an end, I reached out my hand to always be
able to bid good-bye and the actual man said, "I can't shake your own hand." And Also as I turned
away, he said, "If I notice a person again, I'll kill you."
AMANPOUR: In the particular battlefield inside Jalalabad, bin Laden was a dismal failure.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We lost greater than 45 kilometers because regarding his mistake.
AMANPOUR: As Well As he lost many soldiers, amongst individuals inside the militant community,
such as Egyptian Osama Rushdi, bin Laden's popularity took a new hit.
OSAMA RUSHDI, FORMER EGYPTIAN MILITANT (voice-over): Lots of men and also women
criticized Osama bin Laden because he led the Arab fighters to the battle regarding Jalalabad in the
very disorganized way. more compared to 300 of which were killed.
AMANPOUR: Shortly following your battle, bin Laden returned where anyone can Saudi Arabia
PRINCE TURKI AL-FAISAL, SAUDI AMBASSADOR TO U.S.: My title can be Turki al-Faisal. I met
Osama bin Laden in Pakistan within 1985.
AMANPOUR: Prince Turki al-Faisal ended up being the head of Saudi Arabia's intelligence service.
He told me which in 1990, bin Laden offered up his army to drive out your communists from
neighboring Yemen, but the Saudis didn't just take him seriously.
(on camera): Just what was your response when he had been quoted saying that he wanted to do
that?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My response to become able to him had been in which this isn't the best
time, and also in which military conflict within the south Yemen had certainly not been advisable at
this time.
AMANPOUR (voice-over): Later On that year, when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait, bin Laden,
when again, offered his troops to the Saudis.
AL-FAISAL: He inquired some other officials in the kingdom for your opportunity, again, to bring his
Mujahedin, because he called them, they are generally driving out Saddam Hussein through Kuwait,
as well as again, he has been told that was certainly not the best factor in order to do.
AMANPOUR: Instead, the actual Saudis turned towards the West regarding help.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Go, go, go, go.
AMANPOUR: Reporter: the U.S. led the multinational coalition using a huge selection of 1000s of
American troops, in the terrain of the 2 holiest places, Mecca and also Medina. For You To bin
Laden, it absolutely was sacrilege. He began to voice his outrage. Once the Saudis attempted to
muzzle him, bin Laden fled the kingdom. Any man without any country, a man on the run, a man
racing into a point regarding zero return, September 11, 2001.
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AMANPOUR: Across via Saudi Arabia, across the Red Sea, lies the world involving Sudan. Its capital,
Khartoum, an old African crossroad. That ended up being here within the early 1990s in which a
radical Muslim government hell- bent in making a pure Islamist state opened its doors in order to
bin Laden along with al Qaeda.
BERGEN: 1991, '92, bin Laden's a guy with out a nation and your man decides to visit Sudan,
because there exists a government which usually features lately arrive into power, which is
sympathetic to become able to his view and he believes that he will help create a few sort of Islamic
utopia.
AMANPOUR (voice-over): An Islamic utopia in which bin Laden lay out to build through this, his new
residence throughout Khartoum. Here, he quickly began an selection of businesses. Bin Laden
wasn't trying to foster the particular persona of a global terrorist.
SCOTT MACLEOD, CAIRO BUREAU CHIEF, "TIME MAGAZINE": He wanted to demonstrate which
he was a businessman, and that he was a genuine businessman.
My name is actually Scott Macleod. I met Osama bin Laden in Sudan inside 1996.
It struck me he was very calm, serene, nearly just like a holy man.
AMANPOUR: Though he'd been made to flee Saudi Arabia regarding speaking out from the
government, and U.S. troops inside the Kingdom, in the early '90s, there was very few in U.S. law
enforcement whom knew of Osama bin Laden.
DAN COLEMAN, FORMER FBI AGENT: at which point in time, especially from your FBI, he hadn't
attracted a great offer of attention.
AMANPOUR: Which would change. at 12:18 p.m. about February 26th, 1993, the particular world
Trade Center, an icon involving American economic power, has been attacked by a effective truck
bomb. The Particular nation was at shock as it watched are living coverage with the chaos around
the twin towers. for years, Americans had watched news footage with the aftermath of terrorism
abroad, yet this is different. This has been an attack on the homeland. the manhunts that will
followed would eventually lead towards the arrests and convictions involving a pair of men together
with suspected hyperlinks to end up being able to bin Laden, Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and Ramzi
Yousef, the mastermind with the world Trade Middle bombing. BERGEN: Bin Laden offers denied
knowing Ramzi Yousef yet within the larger sense, bin Laden truly has been responsible simply
because Ramzi Yousef had trained in an al Qaeda coaching camp and also Ramzi Yousef's uncle,
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed would end up being the guy who went to bin Laden in 1996 using the
beginnings regarding an amount come out to become the actual policy for 9/11 itself.
AMANPOUR: Bin Laden could deny knowing Ramzi Yousef, but there can be certainly simply no
denying the influence regarding Omar Abdel Rahman, a radical Egyptian cleric whom preached only
at that Jersey Metropolis mosque, across in the world Trade Center. Rahman, commonly recognized
as because the blind Sheikh, was the spiritual guide of the trade center bombers, and also would
ultimately become the theological force powering al Qaeda.
BERGEN: To Become Able To the extent in which there is actually a spiritual self-help guidebook to
al Qaeda, I feel it's Sheikh Rahman, simply because he could be the spiritual influence of the
Egyptians inside al Qaeda and furthermore the Egyptians are generally thus important for the team
ideologically and also personally.
AMANPOUR: Bin Laden's relationship with almost all the Egyptian militants surrounding him, inside
particular, Ayman al Zawahiri, intensified within Sudan. Journalist Jamal Khashoggi met together
with bin Laden any quantity of times in your course of this period.
KHASHOGGI: I felt the existence in the Egyptian radicals. That They were there, physically these
were there. These People would not sit with me. We had been throughout his garden, sitting on the
floor, talking, when somebody arrive along with whispers something throughout his ear. I couldn't
comprehend what they were saying yet I found the Egyptians slang there. That They had been there.
AMANPOUR (on camera): And Also describe how he had been changing them. And Also what he was
doing.
KHASHOGGI: Presently there ended up being a pair of Osamas within Sudan. From the beginning
there is a radical on, an angry one, angry in his government, who had been wanting to play a new
political role, who was attempting to push for change, revolutionary-type change in Saudi Arabia.
The year later, specifically throughout 1995, I saw an even more subdued Osama, whom began to
talk more moderately. He even regretted some associated with the statements he place out against
his government, a few radical positions he did, and that he seemed to me as he desires to go back.
However I believe he were built with a fight within, among just how he has been mentioned as
becoming a moderate Muslim and the predicament he located himself within allied along with
radical Egyptians, and the man couldn't choose.
AMANPOUR: He couldn't choose, says Khashoggi, consequently he allow events decide for him. By
Simply 1995, the particular Saudi government had frozen bin Laden's assets, as well as stripped him
involving his citizenship. His loved ones had publicly disowned him. Privately, however, there was
attempts to bring him again into the fold.
Bin Laden allow his correct feelings always be known inside this, an open letter for you to King
Fahd. Throughout it, he condemned the particular Saudi Royal Family, calling all of them corrupt.
He furthermore known as to get a marketing campaign involving attacks to manage a vehicle U.S.
forces out with the Kingdom. Bin Laden's words were heard. not long afterwards his decree, the
terrorist auto bomb ripped via the joint U.S./Saudi military facility within Riyadh, killing five
Americans.
AL-FAISAL: The automobile bomb exploded facing the actual National Guard coaching middle within
Riyadh, and the perpetrators were captured, plus they mentioned that they had been inspired
through bin Laden.
AMANPOUR: Your Saudi Royal Family Members as well as the Clinton administration had seen
enough. both stepped up strain on the Sudanese government to expel bin Laden, which through now
ended up being out of income and knew his days had been numbered inside Khartoum. He'd already
survived a minimal of 1 assassination attempt by simply rival extremists.
ANAS: I has been sitting inside yet another guest residence throughout Khartoum, when I heard
right after sunset that there exists a clash, and furthermore the attack with the guest house
regarding Osama, so as in order to kill him.
AMANPOUR: under fire, and feeling the actual heat, Osama bin Laden and his awesome followers
take flight again. Inside Might of 1996, bin Laden returns to be able to where his holy war began,
the troubled lands that would spawn your unthinkable.
BERGEN: We realize that bin Laden can be in cost of 9/11 but within the final five-years the
particular United States Regarding America offers not been in a place to catch him. The Actual very
great news is, is that today, there's an improved sense of exactly where he could be.
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(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
AMANPOUR: Your mountains regarding Afghanistan, exactly where Osama bin Laden would really
feel many in home, your place he found when he is at trouble, safe behind these walls.
(on camera): By Simply 1996, Osama bin Laden would always be a man around the run. Stripped
associated with his Saudi citizenship along with banished from Sudan, he came to this now
destroyed compound inside Jalalabad, Afghanistan. That was from this level that however galvanize
his followers simply by declaring war on America. He were built together with a chilling message.
Along With he delivered it to CNN inside his first-ever television interview.
PETER ARNETT, FORMER CNN CORRESPONDENT: My identify can be Peter Arnett. I fulfilled bin
Laden like a CNN correspondent in Afghanistan in March 1997.
While bin Laden was not well known to the American public or even towards the world, inside the
news media, there ended up being clearly a serious large quantity of competition for that interview.
AMANPOUR (voice-over): Spearheading CNN's effort has been then producer Peter Bergen. He
negotiated pertaining to a couple of months along with bin Laden contacts in London.
BERGEN: And, then, we basically got the particular green light. With Regards To the month later, I
got a new call, saying the particular man inside Kuwait desires to notice you, that had been the
particular code for, visit Jalalabad, see bin Laden.
AMANPOUR: driving via Pakistan through your Khyber Pass, the particular crew created its method
to the small capital associated with scotland- Jalalabad.
ARNETT: We drove to the Spinghar Hotel. That would become a really old- fashioned 1930s hotel.
Clearly, the hotel itself kind of had not any kind of restoration work in years, nevertheless it had
been home with regard to weekly or perhaps so.
BERGEN: and we waited.
AMANPOUR: I achieved using Bergen at the Spinghar Hotel, exactly where he informed me with
regards to bin Laden's new and incredibly savvy media campaign.
(on camera): In Order To me, it sounds odd which however use a media adviser. I mean, I know of
Osama bin Laden as hiding in the cave, around the run, raw.
BERGEN: Well, anyone know, I believe bin Laden's had a media strategy from your day he woke up,
almost. I mean, he's -- he's keenly mindful of it. He wants to get his message out. He decided that
will CNN ended up being the particular -- the car regarding his initial television interview.
At the particular point, yet another media adviser came, a kind of guy together with lengthy hair, a
younger guy, looked in any way our camera equipment, and mentioned 'you Can't use any one of
this.'
AMANPOUR: Peter Jouvenal, a British freelance photographer, joined the team.
PETER JOUVENAL, BRITISH FREELANCE PHOTOGRAPHER: I fulfilled Osama bin Laden inside
Afghanistan within 1997.
One day, an Arab came to my room, wanted to examine out my camera. He seemed to become
concerned that will there might be some kind of monitoring device or some type of device which
could hurt Osama. So, i has been advised that which they would give a camera for just about all of us
in order to use.
BERGEN: Right After about 5 days, a new van pulls up. It's dusk.
JOUVENAL: We just about all piled within the back, after which they will gave us these sunglasses
which had components of cardboard cut out along with stuck into the lenses, and then we couldn't
notice them.
BERGEN: In the certain point, these people slow down. These People tell us, if you've a tracking
device, now is the actual time to tell us. Otherwise, it can be a problem. I took the issue in order to
be, anyone know, execution.
JOUVENAL: Well, what they does is, they drove us about Jalalabad throughout circles, I consider
trying to disorientate us.
BERGEN: Then we began going towards the mountains, change regarding vehicle into a four-wheel
drive.
Finally, we arrive with a place exactly where we're searched really professionally. they sweep us
using a track -- with some sort of electronic thing I'd never seen before. Nevertheless I took it to be
able to be, should you have had a new monitoring device, that they would locate it.
ARNETT: We would transfer on pertaining to 20 or 30 minutes. another group would stop us, just
operate in front of the particular car. And In Which I thought, it was an extremely impressive display
of security.
BERGEN: Along With these were extremely pleasant. And that I wasn't concerned. I mean, that they
will had invited us to possess an interview. I didn't -- this truly is long before journalists had been
being killed in this part of the world.
AMANPOUR: after the rocky climb, the crew set up on a mountaintop in the little hut.
JOUVENAL: And Also somebody declared he's coming.
BERGEN: And, then, suddenly, out with the darkness, bin Laden appears.
ARNETT: A Lot More in for you to the subject.
And he ended up being carrying an AK-47. So, sitting there, searching up as regarding this gigantic
figure, ended up being somewhat intimidating.
JOUVENAL: He gave a very limp handshake.
BERGEN: He came in. He ended up being most business. A Person know, "Hello" -- no, simply no --
almost no chit chat, sat down, as well as began the interview.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
ARNETT: Mr. Bin Laden, you've declared any jihad contrary to become able to the United States.
Can Easily an individual tell us why?
BIN LADEN (through translator): We declared jihad upon America since the U.S. government is
unjust.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BERGEN: Basically, he was declaring war from the Usa for that initial time for a person personally
to Western reporters. That Will had been your message.
ARNETT: He basically talked about, anyone know, getting rid of American existence from the middle
East, specifically, from, say, Saudi Arabia. He didn't talk compromise.
Leave now whilst you have your chance. We destroyed the actual Russians, the particular Soviet
Union. When anyone stick with us, you may -- in the wedding you stay around here, we will destroy
you.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
ARNETT: Precisely what with regards to U.S. civilians within Arabia or perhaps the individuals of
the United States?
BIN LADEN (through translator): Though American civilians usually tend to be not targets inside our
plans, they have got to leave. We can not guarantee their particular safety.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
AMANPOUR: Quickly afterwards, bin Laden had been gone. ARNETT: He appeared along with
disappeared. A Person know out of the blue, out of the night, he came to the hut, disappeared into
the night. That's his style.
JOHN MILLER, FORMER ABC NEWS CORRESPONDENT: my name is actually John Miller. I met
Osama bin Laden in Could associated with 1998 in Afghanistan.
AMANPOUR: The yr right after bin Laden satisfied along with CNN, ABC Information correspondent
John Miller had been also provided an interview. Bin Laden was making use of the particular media
regarding each his message and his awesome image.
MILLER: Bin Laden arrived in the motorcade regarding three SUVs. during this time, everybody
shoots their particular guns up to the air, along with tracer rounds as well as -- and machine-gun
fire.
(GUNFIRE)
MILLER: As Dr. Zawahri said, when Mr. Bin Laden comes, there is usually excellent celebration.
He had an AK-47, which he kind of gently propped up against a guide regarding the entire world
that have been taped up about the wall behind him. Again, I feel extremely purposefully, to show in
which al Qaeda would end up being a global organization.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MILLER: The Particular American people, by simply as well as large, do certainly not know the name
bin Laden. However they soon likely will. Perform you've an email for that American people?
BIN LADEN (through translator): the greatest terrorist can be America.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
MILLER: in your interview, he declared war in America. The idea sounded any -- a little hyperbolic.
However I don't feel we understood the actual depth involving his program or even the creativity
involved.
What he ended up being doing was, he has been foreshadowing a strategy that features been
previously in effect. Your die had been cast. He was just doing a little advance publicity.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BIN LADEN (through translator): We do certainly not differentiate between those wearing military
uniforms and civilians. They Will are generally all targets.
AMANPOUR: Now, no one could be safe. Bin Laden had been upping your ante in a way Americans
would comprehend much too soon.
MILLER: He said, I predict a black day for your United States, following which the particular united
States won't ever function as same.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
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AMANPOUR (voice-over): Masked men -- al Qaeda -- below the duvet of night -- final preparations.
Daybreak -- the key event -- a new heavily guarded SUV suddenly arrives within the city of Khost,
Afghanistan. Gunfire erupts everywhere. Osama bin Laden performs for that cameras. It's an
explosive starting to his first and only press conference, witnessed by Pakistani journalist Ismail
Khan.
ISMAIL KHAN, PAKISTANI JOURNALIST: Just About All in the sudden, these were shooting and
then boom, boom, rocket-propelled grenades, and also firing. And, regarding once, I thought, we
now have belong to attack as well as something."
AMANPOUR: Might 26, 1998 -- this was bin Laden's videotaped contact for war against America.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BIN LADEN (through translator): By Simply God's grace, we've formed a company using additional
Islamic teams and Islamic nations, a front referred in order to as Islamic Front.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
AMANPOUR: Throughout this press conference, bin Laden moves public with al Qaeda's promises to
attack the United States.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BIN LADEN (through translator): The Actual Jews and also the Christians come together against
Muslim.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
AMANPOUR: Bin Laden had turned most together together with his declaration of war.
(on camera): no more time would he just attack the particular U.S. military as well as U.S. leaders.
Now he had been proclaiming that the American people would be reputable targets.
HAMID MIR, OSAMA BIN LADEN BIOGRAPHER: My name is actually Hamid Mir. And I Also met
Osama bin Laden, very first time, throughout Tora Bora mountains.
AMANPOUR (voice-over): Journalist Hamid Mir is creating an authorized biography of bin Laden. He
interviewed the particular al Qaeda leader 3 times throughout the 1990's.
AMANPOUR: How do he justify the killing associated with innocent Americans?
MIR: He mentioned that, yes, the actual killing involving innocent children and ladies is not
permitted throughout Islam. but if they're killing our innocent children, if they're providing weapons
towards the Israelis as well as towards the some other anti-Muslim forces, to kill Muslims, we have
the right to end up being able to reply again inside the same manner.
AMANPOUR: Whilst bin Laden believed he stood a political justification regarding killing American
civilians, he required the particular trappings associated with clerical legitimacy. In Which will come
within the form of your fatwa, a spiritual decree coming from Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, your blind
radical Egyptian cleric, the actual spiritual manual in the 1993 Globe Trade Middle bombers.
When the fatwa has been handed out at bin Laden's press conference, Rahman ended up being
previously imprisoned in the Usa on terrorism charges.
BERGEN: Neither bin Laden, nor Ayman Al-Zawahri, his range two, tend to be religious scholars. As
Well As they tend to be totally aware that. and so, they needed this fatwa through Sheik Rahman to
always be able to sort of provide these with clerical include regarding this unprecedented thing,
which in turn ended up being attacking American civilians.
AMANPOUR: This particular laminated card, having its Arabic script, outlined, using chilling
accuracy, al Qaeda's terrifying new course.
It is seen here in your media for the first time.
MIR: in in which fatwa, it was written that, Kill Americans in the sea; kill Americans inside the air;
kill Americans everywhere.
AMANPOUR: Rahman's significance to become able to al Qaeda is underscored simply by its fervent
preoccupation using freeing the blind sheik from his American prison cell.
Osama bin Laden vowed the maximum quantity of in this video.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BIN LADEN (through translator): We promise to always be able to function with just about all of our
capacity to free our brothers everywhere as well as in just about any prison, specifically in America,
such as Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
AMANPOUR: There's even a new training exercise targeted at springing Rahman, layed out within
the Encyclopedia regarding Jihad, al Qaeda's huge guide on everything coming from guerrilla
warfare and terrorist tactics to always be able to the means to recognize any rattlesnake or even
treat any scorpion sting.
BERGEN: thousands along with thousands of pages. That draws about many sources, including U.S.
Army manuals, and it is something that, apart from the education camps, I feel may always be the
most important factor in which al Qaeda gave for the global jihadist movement.
AMANPOUR: The Particular
encyclopedia, your years of recruiting,
working out camps, al Qaeda's
murderous new ideology, most involving
it culminating inside this, Osama bin
Laden's official and extremely public
declaration involving war upon America
along with Americans. (BEGIN VIDEO
CLIP)
BIN LADEN (through translator):
Whoever counts upon God, God will grant him victory. and we're giving the actual good news that
individuals will acquire victory more than America as well as the Jews, God willing.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
AMANPOUR: Bin Laden had spoken. once again, he had warned his enemy. Yet was anyone really
listening? Would any person just take him seriously? Bin Laden was ready for you to strike, along
with now had his as well as the girl own spy chasing the actual target...
ALI MOHAMMED, AL QAEDA OPERATIVE: My title is Ali Mohammed.
AMANPOUR: ... an agent that had expended a extended time inside your U.S. military.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
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GARY BERNTSEN, FORMER CIA OFFICER: I feel it was maybe 4:30 inside the morning when my
telephone rang. A New woman that is at our watch center stated there are already detonations
regarding explosive devices against two embassies inside East Africa.
AMANPOUR (voice-over): 2 American embassies, two truck bombs, two terrorist attacks just nine
minutes apart in neighboring countries over the coast, Kenya and Tanzania.
Gary Berntsen, any veteran CIA officer, rushed in order to headquarters within Langley, Virginia.
BERNTSEN: While we had been having 1 regarding these meeting, CNN ended up being being
broadcast. And Also anyone had people travelling on the wreckage.
AMANPOUR: Much More when compared with 200 dead, greater than 4,000 injured. That had been
powering this carnage, and why?
BERNTSEN: That ended up being assumed right away in which this is the Hezbollah attack.
AMANPOUR: Hezbollah because the militant group had attacked U.S. targets inside the past. Yet the
actual CIA is at for a surprise. two investigative teams had been dispatched for you to Africa.
Berntsen led the actual search team within Tanzania.
BERNTSEN: We obtain there, faces torn off your building. This looks just like a tornado features
gone via and also sucked each piece of furniture out of every room along with in to the hallways.
AMANPOUR: Inside eight days, there were leads and suspects, along using a stunning realization:
Osama bin Laden had lived approximately his threat. His al Qaeda terrorists had just struck his or
her 1st direct blows in their holy war against the United States.
The attacks had been carefully planned.
MOHAMMED: My title can be Ali Mohammed.
AMANPOUR: This kind of man, Ali Mohammed, was simply no ordinary al Qaeda operative. He
married any Californian within 1985, and also became an American citizen. He joined the actual U.S.
Army, and within the end would assist train U.S. particular forces. He appears here on a military
panel.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MOHAMMED: Your fundamentalists, it indicates the people, they try to set up an Islamic state based
about the Islamic Sharia.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
AMANPOUR: Inside 1998, even now serving within the U.S. Army, Ali Mohammed produced an
unauthorized trip to Afghanistan. He joined your war against the Russians getting fought simply by
Afghan militias along with mujahedeen, just like Osama bin Laden. Yet, the particular extremely next
year, he received an honorable discharge from the U.S. military.
BERGEN: Ali Mohammed is really a actually interesting character, kind of like a double agent. From
the same period which he was a U.S. Army sergeant and also operating from special forces
headquarters throughout Fort Bragg, North Carolina, he has been also intimately involved together
with al Qaeda, coaching bin Laden's bodyguards.
DANIEL COLEMAN, FORMER FBI AGENT: Ali Mohammed had done what they call casing of the
American Embassy inside Nairobi inside December of 1993, a new five-year span between casing
and operation.
AMANPOUR: and listen as to the Ali Mohammed said in a U.S. court.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "My surveillance files as well as photographs were reviewed simply by
Osama bin Laden. Bin Laden looked over the image in the American Embassy, as well as pointed in
order to in which a truck could go as a suicide bomber."
AMANPOUR: Almost a couple weeks following the bombings the particular U.S. responded along
with force.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
WILLIAM J. CLINTON, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Today, I ordered our armed forces in
order to strike at terrorist-related facilities throughout Afghanistan as well as Sudan.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
AMANPOUR: Throughout Afghanistan, the U.S. goal ended up being bin Laden himself.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
CLINTON: Our forces targeted certainly one of probably your most active terrorist bases within the
world.
We have got reason to trust in which a gathering involving key terrorist leaders ended up being to
adopt location there today.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
AMANPOUR: Yet the actual U.S. would miss its target.
Abu Jandal had been among bin Laden's bodyguards in Afghanistan. Within an uncommon recorded
interview with all the "Al-Quds Al-Arabi" newspaper, he described how bin Laden escaped the actual
U.S. attack in the city associated with Khost.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
ABU JANDAL, FORMER CHIEF BIN LADEN BODYGUARD (through translator): I remember when
we reached a new crossroads in between Khost as well as Kabul. Bin Laden checked out me and also
said: "Abu Jandal, what would you think? where do you imagine we should go? To End Up Being Able
To Khost or to Kabul?"
I said, "Let's go to Kabul to be able to visit our comrades."
(END VIDEO CLIP)
AMANPOUR: In Which chance selection saved bin Laden's life. In the particular duration of your
U.S. missiles attack, Prince Turki al-Faisal, the actual head involving Saudi intelligence, ended up
being pressing Afghanistan's government for bin Laden's extradition.
AL-FAISAL: I went there in June '98. I spoke for you to Mullah Omar. Initially, he had been amenable
to the idea.
AMANPOUR: Mullah Omar ended up being your leader in the Taliban, the totalitarian regime that
offers been fighting to show Afghanistan into an uncompromising Islamic state.
After the U.S. missile strikes, Prince Turki al-Faisal achieved together with Mullah Omar the 2nd
time.
AL-FAISAL: I ended up being returned for you to Kandahar, to remind Mullah Omar associated with
his promise. and this time, when I -- when I did that, Mullah Omar denied entirely that he had
developed a promise.
VAHID MOJDEH, FORMER TALIBAN FOREIGN MINISTRY WORKER (through translator): My name
is actually Vahid Mojdeh. I met Osama bin Laden between 1984 and also 1985 within Peshawar,
during the jihad.
AMANPOUR: Within your 1990s, Vahid Mojdeh worked inside the Taliban's Ministry involving
Foreign Affairs. I met him in Kabul, Afghanistan, pertaining to his 1st interview in Western
television.
AMANPOUR (on camera): How do Osama bin Laden acquire the particular support and also the
backing with the Taliban leadership?
MOJDEH (through translator): Osama knew what tend to be the Taliban needed. for example, if they
wanted Toyota pickup trucks, Osama will give them 10. Then, the actual Taliban would go back as
well as tell Mullah Omar which it was Osama who was simply donating each one associated with
these trucks. Within this way, bin Laden created himself even closer towards the Taliban.
AMANPOUR (voice-over): This really is where, Mojdeh says, Osama bin Laden stayed when in Kabul.
But bin Laden failed to stay on this residence or even any kind of location for extremely long.
MOJDEH (through translator): Osama had been constantly about the move. Along With he wouldn't
talk on a telephone, because there is usually the possibility of becoming targeted.
AMANPOUR: in fact, bin Laden was a target. Within 1996, Michael Scheuer helped make the CIA's
bin Laden unit, which in turn pinpointed your al Qaeda leader's exact area on a amount of occasions.
MICHAEL SCHEUER, FORMER CHIEF OF CIA BIN LADEN UNIT: Throughout fact, the initial time
we had an chance to capture bin Laden, every thing had been on the proper track until they found
several swing set equipment in the farm exactly where -- exactly where bin Laden resided. And Also
that they said, oh, God. there's children. They Will thought, oh my God, we can get criticized if we do
this.
AMANPOUR: So, they didn't. Osama bin Laden, America's nearly all wanted, had escaped, along
with was liberated to continue his holy war against the United States.
Shortly after the terrorist attacks on the a couple of U.S. embassies, this man, Abdal Rahim al-
Nashiri, approached bin Laden using a new scheme. A Couple Of years of planning followed.
On October 7, 2000, in the Yemeni Port regarding Aden, a couple of al Qaeda suicide bombers
steered their little boat up to the USS Cole. His Or Her bomb blew the gaping hole inside the Navy
destroyer, and killed 17 American sailors.
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CLINTON: To End Up Being Able To those who attacked them, we say: you won't look pertaining to
a safe harbor. We will discover you. and justice will prevail.
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AMANPOUR: Yet your U.S. didn't retaliate.
And, four several weeks following your bombing in the Cole, bin Laden praised his holy warriors at
the wedding associated with his son throughout Afghanistan.
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BIN LADEN (through translator): in Aden, your small men rose up regarding holy war.
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AMANPOUR: Perhaps then, Osama bin Laden ended up being previously planning yet another
attack, a lot more sinister, more deadly compared to anyone actually imagined.
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MALIKA EL AROUD, SAW OSAMA BIN LADEN (through translator): The Majority Of Muslims enjoy
him, just similar to I enjoy him myself. This ended up being Osama bin Laden which stood up against
the greatest enemy inside the world, your United States.
AMANPOUR: Malika el Aroud loves Osama bin Laden for the exact same reasons that inspire his
followers round the world, bin Laden's unquestioned piety, his selection of faith over fortune.
EL AROUD (through translator): He sets an extremely excellent example, because he's a person
regarding great wealth which shared his funds as well as knew to be able to say, voila, here, this
isn't mine.
AMANPOUR: Malika el Aroud, a devout Muslim whom emigrated via Morocco like a child, was
surviving in Belgium when the lady initial found Osama bin Laden about television. His image
mesmerized your ex and your ex husband, Abdessater Dahmane.
EL AROUD (through translator): He ended up being watching. Right now there was obviously a
fascination, any love. That ended up being extremely clear, and also I felt the particular same.
Osama had beauty throughout his face. The idea is really a stunning face.
BIN LADEN: (speaking foreign language)
GRAPHIC: Might God give victory to the younger men that perform jihad for you to earn His
approval. Might God give us patience.
EL AROUD (through translator): When you listen to his voice, celebrate you need to always be able
to fully stand up correct away and leave and also be part of him.
AMANPOUR: Along With that's what your ex husband does when he traveled to Afghanistan
throughout 2000. Malika El Aroud followed the next year. Existence together with bin Laden meant
living without.
EL AROUD (through translator): There were windows without having glass, just a huge hole within
the wall. And Also it had been the middle of winter. Generally there had been simply no bathroom,
zero kitchen. We really believed we had gone back again to the center ages.
AMANPOUR: her husband, whom had spent six months within al Qaeda training camps, was handed
a secret deadly assignment, 1 that would transfer bin Laden closer to be able to his ultimate goal.
EL AROUD (through translator): He informed me he'd be residence throughout 15 days.
AMANPOUR: Which could be the final moment she would at virtually any time observe him.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My identify will be Baker Atyani. and I fulfilled with bin Laden on the 21st
regarding June 2001, within Kandahar City, Afghanistan.
AMANPOUR: Within the summertime associated with 2001, Baker Atyani has been working for the
Center East Broadcasting Middle in Pakistan when al Qaeda contacted him making him an offer, an
interview along with bin Laden. Atyani had been taken up Kandahar.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I went for the bedroom (ph). Osama was there. He stand up, and which he
shook hands and that will he stated welcome.
AMANPOUR: Additionally there, the particular Egyptian, Ayman al-Zawahiri.
(on camera) What has been the impression involving Ayman al-Zawahiri?
BAKER ATYANI, EGYPTIAN: I don't believe that Ayman al-Zawahiri has been below your leadership
regarding Osama bin Laden. However the particular impression that I study I got from the meeting,
that I get 2 leaders with the same place.
AMANPOUR: Thus they're equals?
ATYANI: It looks like they're equal, because all involving us have their really own point regarding
view.
AMANPOUR (voice-over): Bin Laden informed Atyani which he could not do the job interview
because his host, the Taliban, did not want him to produce incendiary public statements. but bin
Laden along with Zawahiri did sit regarding this photo opportunity, and therefore they were built
using a message, yet another dire warning which bin Laden wanted broadcast to the world.
ATYANI: These People stated subsequent couple associated with weeks will carry a large surprise.
We will target American along with Israeli installations. Now, Osama himself appeared as if he has
been very happy, and in which he smiled.
AMANPOUR (on camera): Along With that that was your own response to this?
ATYANI: Well, I think it had been big news. I advised my channel that will his followers were telling
me that the coffin company will increase within the states, the United States.
AMANPOUR (voice-over): once again, bin Laden had telegraphed his intentions to the world. The
Actual warning was broadcast a bit more than two months prior to always be able to the attacks
regarding 9/11.
And your warnings continued for you to mount. Upon August 6, unbeknownst towards the American
public, President George Bush received this highly classified memo, "bin Laden decided for you to
strike within U.S."
In it, this paragraph: "FBI information since that period signifies patterns associated with suspicious
activity on this nation constant with preparations for hijackings or other forms of attacks, including
current surveillance of federal buildings in New York.
Then in September 9 in Afghanistan, your final hint in which bin Laden was ready in order to strike
America. the assassination regarding Ahmad Shah Masoud, a buddy with the U.S. and also
legendary leader of the Northern Alliance, the formidable Afghan militia.
BERGEN: Masoud was a brilliant military commander. He was fighting the Soviets extremely
successfully through the '80s, somebody that both bin Laden as well as the Taliban observed as
getting a threat for you to him, this charismatic, brilliant military commander. and throughout fact,
he ended up being the final obstacle which stood involving the Taliban overpowering the complete
involving Afghanistan, while he kept fighting these to the bitter end.
AMANPOUR: A Couple Of men claiming to be television reporters arranged interviews with Masoud.
That They were suicide bombers armed with explosives. 1 had these strapped to his body, the other
hidden inside the camera.
BERGEN: There's no doubt that bin Laden ordered your assassination associated with Masoud. He
knew the 9/11 attacks would probably provoke a few type of American reaction, and that will he
required the actual Taliban in order to protect him. so what he gave them had been the one thing
they will desired most, which ended up being Masoud's head on the plate.
AMANPOUR: the explosion killed Masoud. Additionally, it killed one of the 2 attackers, the
cameraman. Another assassin had been executed by simply Masoud's men. He had been Abdessater
Dahmane, Malika El Aroud's husband. This kind of have been his secret mission, and he as well as
she had been very proud.
EL AROUD (through translator): of course, it is actually a heroic act. It was obviously a extremely
courageous act. Individuals originated in a long way away to congratulate me, to hold me within
their arms. It's extraordinary to become the actual widow of the martyr throughout Islam.
AMANPOUR: Bin Laden himself covered your ex husband's debts.
EL AROUD (through translator): I received the payment. The Actual individual who gave me the
particular envelope declared it had been coming from Sheikh Osama.
AMANPOUR: 2 al Qaeda agents had calmly taken their particular lives to kill Ahmad Shah Masoud.
and two days later, 19 various other al Qaeda terrorists would hold out bin Laden's guarantee for
you to America.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (speaking foreign language)
GRAPHIC: This could be America filled with fear, from your north to always be able to south, as well
as east to west.
AMANPOUR: September 11, 2001, Osama bin Laden brings his bloody holy war to America, an
agenda hatched a prolonged time before. Nineteen al Qaeda members, four hijacked planes, any
suicide mission that killed some 3,000 folks within New York, Washington, D.C., and also
Pennsylvania.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (speaking foreign language)
GRAPHIC: We calculated ahead involving time your number of enemy casualties. I had been
probably the particular most optimistic of these all.
AMANPOUR: Osama bin Laden had, once again, created great on his threats.
BERGEN: Bin Laden believes which he's carrying out God's will as well as which if he doesn't do
what he's doing, that God will punish him. He usually believes in which God can be telling him what
things to do.
AMANPOUR: A Couple Of several weeks following 9/11, Pakistani journalist Hamid Mir interviewed
Osama bin Laden close to Kabul. The idea had been your terrorist leader's simply print interview
since the attacks.
MIR: Throughout that will interview, his major objective would happen to end up being able to be to
convey a message that this can be not the conclusion of the war. This really is exactly the beginning.
He ended up being stating it once more and again.
AMANPOUR (on camera): How does he seem? was he nervous? was he anxious? Does he seem like
he has been hunted?
MIR: He was not nervous. He has been very confident, smiling.
AMANPOUR (voice-over): Some Other 9/11 conspirators also sought after the actual media. Yosri
Fouda, the actual London bureau chief for Al Jazeera television, was operating on this documentary
when an anonymous phone caller offered a new stunning exclusive.
YOSRI FOUDA, LONDON BUREAU CHIEF, AL JAZEERA: they wouldn't say specifically what this
kind of exclusive stuff would be.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): someone known as me along with stated access it a
plane as well as come to Karachi. I followed your orders I ended up being given.
AMANPOUR: Inside Karachi, Fouda was blindfolded as well as driven to some constructing exactly
where his promised exclusive will be revealed.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): While I stood at the entranceway step, I realized that
the man opening the door had been none besides Khalid Shaikh Mohamed.
FOUDA: Khalid Shaikh Mohamed introduced himself first because the head of the al Qaeda military
committee, and then he introduced Ramzi Binalshibh since the coordinator of September 11.
AMANPOUR: How does Shaikh Mohamed, that studied engineering in a university within the United
States, conceive the 9/11 attacks?
FOUDA: in the start that they do contemplate attacking any number of nuclear facilities. These
People said, "Well, we considered it within the beginning, nevertheless we made the particular
decision not to complete it regarding now."
AMANPOUR: Ramzi Binalshibh explained to end up being able to Fouda the targets had been
symbolic, that the Globe Trade Middle symbolized American economic domination.
FOUDA: As Well As the particular Pentagon could be the symbol of the military may well inside
America, Capitol Hill, the particular symbol involving democracy throughout America.
AMANPOUR: Khalid Shaikh Mohamed had approached Osama bin Laden again inside 1996 with all
the concept of hijacking planes and slamming them straight into U.S. buildings. Throughout the next
five years of planning, bin Laden has been involved with almost every detail. BERGEN: He selected
that the lead hijackers had been likely to be. He selected the key targets. and when he permitted a
certain quantity regarding flexibility about the timing with the attacks, it absolutely was -- a person
know, he had been calling the actual shots.
AMANPOUR: Upon October 7, your United States Associated With America struck again with
lightning success. Afghanistan ended up being overrun throughout weeks.
GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Our military forces and in addition the
forces of our allies and many Afghans seeking a a lot better future, are usually liberating
Afghanistan.
BERGEN: Interestingly, there's been any large quantity of internal criticism inside al Qaeda about
the 9/11 attacks. This could be surprising, I think, for you to many people. but al Qaeda insiders
were saying, anyone know, this was any tactical achievement nevertheless a new strategic disaster.
We lost our base within Afghanistan. The Particular Taliban will zero longer exists, much more or
less. Our group may be very much damaged.
Bin Laden's son, Omar, left him. He basically believed to his father, these attacks were dumb. they
had been stupid. We've got this 800-pound gorilla after us now. and throughout fact, "I'm planning to
leave." As Well As he left Afghanistan and your man went together to Saudi Arabia, and in which he
basically offers washed his hands involving his father.
AMANPOUR: Upon November 12, Kabul ended up being overtaken through an Afghan militia allied
using the United States. the Taliban were routed, along with bin Laden ran to the one refuge he
knew best, your Afghan mountains.
BERGEN: Bin Laden went alongside to Tora Bora. Along With it isn't surprising he would not. Tora
Bora is extremely defensible. It's 10,000 feet up. It's a spot he knew really well. He's, a person know,
been planning and also out of that location for more than any decade.
AMANPOUR: one newspaper reporter was handed an uncommon glimpse of bin Laden's mountain
hideaway.
ABDEL BARI ATWAN, JOURNALIST: My identify is actually Abdel Bari Atwan. I satisfied Osama bin
Laden throughout Afghanistan throughout Tora Bora throughout November 1996.
AMANPOUR: Bin Laden permitted Abdel Bari Atwan, the actual editor inside chief in the London
based "Al-Quds al-Arabi", to shoot photographs.
ATWAN: He loved Tora Bora while he felt safe within Tora Bora.
The cave truly has been divided into two rooms. The very first room ended up being one thing like a
living room. A Person get beds and mats about the floor. As Well As you have shelves regarding
books, the vast majority of it theological books. He explained he feels safe in these caves. He is
aware of it is very a hardship on anyone to occur and adhere to him there.
AMANPOUR: Nevertheless bin Laden had been wrong. He ended up being followed, tracked simply
by U.S. intelligence along with Afghan militias. That They had Osama bin Laden within their
crosshairs. He has been cornered. or so they thought.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK) AMANPOUR (voice-over): December 2001, any relentless bombing
campaign. Air strikes thundered by means of the actual treacherous mountains associated with
eastern Afghanistan. The Particular battle of Tora Bora had begun. Osama bin Laden, the particular
jackal of 9/11, along with hundreds of al Qaeda fighters had finally been cornered, or therefore it
seemed.
BERNTSEN: We brought in Spectre gunships that can easily place the bullet in every inch of your
football field.
AMANPOUR: Gary Berntsen has been the actual leader of the key CIA paramilitary unit which had
pursued bin Laden since he had fled Kabul. Along With now your CIA had been sure it knew where
he was, thanks throughout huge portion to a radio taken off a defunct al Qaeda fighters.
BERNTSEN: We listened to bin Laden with regard to a couple regarding days using that radio,
listened to his communications among him and the men. We listened in order to him apologize to
them pertaining to having led these people into this trap and having led all of them right into a
location where they will be having airstrikes referred for you to as upon them just relentlessly.
AMANPOUR: A Lot More when compared with two weeks associated with bombing, solid
intelligence, your U.S. had thrown its greatest bombs, its most sophisticated missiles, bunker
busters, daisy cutters, at bin Laden, yet somehow, some way, it had been not enough.
BERGEN: the policy of utilizing very limited quantity of U.S. Particular Forces around the ground
calling inside airstrikes plus a huge quantity of Afghan ground troops worked brilliantly from
overthrowing the actual Taliban, yet at the battle associated with Tora Bora, it had been the total
disaster.
AMANPOUR (on camera): The Particular strategy had been with regard to Afghan along with
Pakistani soldiers to bar any escape routes, but Osama bin Laden managed to be the waste through
the mountains. and the actual mission to always be able to capture as well as eliminating the al
Qaeda leader failed. by many accounts, the main issue wasn't enough American soldiers around the
ground.
BERGEN: By Simply my calculation, there were much more American journalists when compared
with American soldiers in the battle involving Tora Bora, along with that fact type of speaks
pertaining to itself.
BERNTSEN: Within the very first a couple of or even three events of December, I would write an
email again for you to Washington, recommending the insertion involving U.S. forces on the ground.
I has been searching for 600 to end up being able to 800 Rangers, roughly any battalion. they in no
way came.
AMANPOUR (voice-over): In Addition hunting bin Laden within Tora Bora, then Afghan militia
leader, General Mohamed Zahir (ph).
(on camera) Perform you've virtually any concept the amount of American soldiers had been at the
battle of Tora Bora?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right now there was not more than 50, 60, I think. There wasn't more than
which at that time.
AMANPOUR (voice-over): Osama bin Laden, seeking frail and also significantly older when
compared with his 44 years following your huge onslaught associated with Tora Bora, had escaped
again.
Ever the actual media-conscious terrorist, bin Laden today continues to supply his message upon
video as well as audiotapes. His phrases along with threats are usually vitriolic rants in order to
many Americans. but for you to people who understand him as well as hunt him, bin Laden's
missives have excellent meaning along with ominous revelations.
SCHEUER: I feel a component of the reason why in which there hasn't been an attack since 9/11 is
he had been criticized amongst his peers for that attack regarding 9/11.
AMANPOUR: Criticized by simply fellow extremists regarding certainly not following, as they
observe it, the particular guidance with the holy prophet Mohamed for attacking an enemy.
SCHEUER: so he's invested the final 4 a lengthy time very much addressing individuals issues along
together with his audience. from your Muslim perspective, the prophet usually demanded that will
before you attack a person an individual warn these people and you provide these the opportunity to
become Islam.
AMANPOUR: As Well As that's precisely what bin Laden later on did.
BIN LADEN: (speaking foreign languages)
GRAPHIC: I'm calling you towards the path associated with happiness in Earth. To End Up Being
Able To rescue anyone I'm calling you to follow Islam.
SCHEUER: Bin Laden in three occasions, Zawahiri in two occasions, get offered to become our
books inside a conversion to Islam, proclaiming that things are forgiven in the event you convert.
AMANPOUR: Scheuer says bin Laden additionally believed he's fulfilled your prophet's last
requirement regarding launching another, much more enormous attack, a spiritual blessing to
become able to kill countless Americans with weapons associated with mass destruction.
SCHEUER: Any judgment from a youthful cleric inside Saudi Arabia which authorizes your
Mujahideen, created large, to use nuclear weapons against the united States along with -- together
with capping your casualties in 10 million.
AMANPOUR (on camera): He's had an approval, a spiritual approval regarding ten million deaths?
SCHEUER: Yes.
AMANPOUR (voice-over): Actually on the run, bin Laden remains probably the particular most
potent force inside militant Islam. His influence, much too apparent in the deadly bombings in
Madrid in 2004, inside London throughout 2005 as well as inside the ongoing bloodshed unleashed
through al Qaeda in Iraq.
But what if bin Laden were eliminated? Precisely what then?
BERGEN: Within the actual longer time I feel it would offer a tremendous boost towards the power
associated with bin Laden's ideas, since this concept of martyrdom will be this kind of well-liked one.
I feel it could boost which mythical persona.
AMANPOUR: Nowadays bin Laden's whereabouts remain a mystery. However many think your 49-
year-old terrorist will be hiding somewhere within the rugged and mountainous border region
among Pakistan as well as Afghanistan.
BERGEN: U.S. intelligence sources figure out now he's high north, virtually up for the border along
with China about the Afghan-Pakistan border inside an region known as Chitral. Remote,
inaccessible. The Particular difficulty is, is that U.S. military forces can't go into Pakistan. The
Particular Pakistan government won't allow that.
AMANPOUR: Bin Laden has long vowed which he will not always be captured alive.
Abu Jandal was once Osama's chief bodyguard. Within an infrequent recorded interview having an
Arabic newspaper, Jandal recounts bin Laden's strict orders.
JANDAL (through translator): Sheikh Osama gave me the pistol to utilize just inside case I involved
in order to belong to enemy hands. the pistol had just two bullets so as for you to kill him in order
that he would not be taken alive.
AMANPOUR (on camera): Dead or alive, what will the near future associated with Osama bin
Laden's jihad appear like?
Those who recognize him think in which his holy war as well as the violence its ignited will continue
long after he's gone. and almost all more than the planet individuals are asking yourself exactly
where he will strike next.
Bin Laden himself is composing the next chapter. He wants his own kids to carry about the fight.
(voice-over) Since 9/11, bin Laden is now any father once again to some daughter he named Saphia
(ph), after getting a woman famous with regard to killing any Jewish spy.
MIR: He explained that after my daughter will grow, the girl will even kill the enemies of Islam.
AMANPOUR: Via 1 generation for the next, a new legacy of terror. Pertaining To Osama bin Laden,
his holy war can be far, far from over.
BERGEN: I consider bin Laden has been productive in creating a thousand some other bin Ladens,
which in turn we is going to be dealing with pertaining to a minimum of a new generation.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... trusted against my individuals just about all over the actual world.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What you have witnessed now is only the beginning.
BIN LADEN: (speaking foreign language)
GRAPHIC: you the American people, I speak with a person today about the very best method to steer
clear of another Manhattan. I want to speak concerning war and also its brings about and also its
consequences. I inform you security is surely an crucial aspect in life. As anyone spoil our security,
we will spoil yours.
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