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Lawmakers Find Compensated In spite of Shutdown; Who's In, Who's Out?; Amanda Knox Murder
Retrial; Wine Drinkers Overpour
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MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: Examine out the approach a high-speed chase within
Oklahoma ended. Officers utilized spike strips to slow the car down, drew their own guns, yanked
your driver through the particular window.
The chase began earlier when police attempted to pull him over for a traffic violation. He punched
the actual fuel instead. Police have certainly not mentioned why specifically he fled.
Sky gazers within Africa thought they were getting a serious show. That would be a rocket launch
from California. Calls about UFO sightings started arriving following the launch with the Space-X
Falcon 9. Studies from Zimbabwe, Botswana, Malawi, South Africa.
Turns out rocket fuel introduced during sunset begun to glow more than numerous African nations.
Many thought it was UFOs. are you a believer?
CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Conspiracy.
PEREIRA: I knew I had been likely to go there, Kate.
KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: Obviously. It's always any conspiracy.
CUOMO: I said hello quietly thus no-one hears.
BOLDUAN: So, it sounds a lot more conspiratorial.
CUOMO: Yes.
BOLDUAN: Got it, got it.
Back for you to our lead story this morning: a lot more than 800,000 federal employees upon
furlough this morning. States about to lose millions of tourism us dollars because many U.S.
landmarks are likely to become closing. Precisely what about the people that Golf Course Real
Estate Capitol Hill DC are to blame with regard to this whole mess? Exactly what could they be
stopping during the shutdown that people most hope can be brief yet we do not know.
CNN's Athena Jones is actually about Capitol Hill with this angle in the story.
Good morning, Athena.
ATHENA JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Excellent morning, Kate.
I believe the large quantity of voters could be surprised to understand that members of Congress
can easily continue to collect a new paycheck through the shutdown. It's something that surprised a
number of the newer members I spoke along with along with angered many with the veterans as I
went around asking these members of Congress whatever they consider about this and what they
strategy to accomplish with their pay.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
JONES (voice-over): Congress's approval ratings could end up being with historic lows, but that will
not stop members via acquiring paid, even throughout a government shutdown.
(on camera): They'll even now obtain paid. Is the particular fact that appropriate?
SEN. BARBARA BOXER (D), CALIFORNIA: No.
JONES: I'm wanting to discover exactly where he is an acronym about the issue involving members
regarding Congress collecting their particular pay during a shutdown.
(voice-over): I labored the actual phones striking your halls.
If there's a new shutdown, members of Congress nevertheless find for you to collect their particular
paycheck. Exactly what do you think about that?
REP. PAUL GOSAR (R), ARIZONA: I actually consider nobody will be above the law. that means your
president, the particular attorney general also as us. Almost All of them ought to become putting
that about maintain until this is resolved.
JONES: Along With what will members regarding Congress do with their money?
REP. PETE GALLEGO (D), TEXAS: I am urging my fellow members regarding congress to become
able to donate their particular spend to charitable causes.
REP. TULSI GABBARD (D), HAWAII: I'm going to become writing a verify again for the U.S.
Treasury and providing my pay back and also standing in solidarity together with everyone else.
JONES: So, why do senators and representatives acquire in order to collect their particular paycheck
while a huge variety of thousands of federal employees will need to become able to go without?
Blame the particular Constitution. Ordinary members regarding congress in each chambers help
make $174,000 the year. Congressional leaders make more. Absolutely No Congress can alter its
really own salaries. That is merely able to vote to change the spend regarding long term sessions of
Congress.
Senator Boxer says she'll probably offer her paycheck in order to charity nevertheless that's zero
consolation to become able to government workers just like Dee Alexander.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When we aren't receiving paid, I don't think Congress ought to get paid
out both simply because I think they must feel what we're feeling.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
JONES: That's not really surprising. Members regarding Congress are generally well-aware that will
his or her constituents back residence aren't going to be as well happy about the fact which they are
usually continue to get paid. So, Nj-new Jersey congressman and Republican congresswoman from
New Jersey, Frank LoBiondo, just hrs ahead involving the shutdown tweeted out this letter to the
folks here on Capitol Hill whom handled congressional pay, stating he wants his paycheck withheld
as well as Texas Senator Ted Cruz says he will be donating his spend in order to charity -- Chris.
CUOMO: Yes, yes, yes. When we were asking all of them concerning his or her paychecks yesterday
as well as exactly what it meant with just about all the shutdown, they were ducking and also
bouncing around, Athena. It would become a joke. However now, it's actually the least of the
concerns, right? We're concerned about American families. Although Congress carries on to have
their own paychecks, that's great.
They're elected. They're supposed to get their money. That's fine. However any great offer of people
will most likely be deeply impacted through the shutdown.
We're checking in along with our panel associated with Americans becoming a member of us reside
this morning.
Now, Brad, I want to come back to become able to you. You've got the actual business. You're
affected together with your little company because you're working close in order to the Statue of
Liberty, right?
Explain that, why your business will be affected.
BRAD HILL, PRESIDENT, EVELYN HILL, INC.: We function your gift shop and also food service in
the Statue regarding Liberty upon Ellis Island. Statue is shut today. Ellis Island has been closed
since Hurricane Sandy. Thus our enterprise has been greatly impacted. We haven't any revenues.
CUOMO: Along With you've needed to permit folks go, right?
HILL: Yes, we allow 110 people, including myself, as associated with today.
CUOMO: Individuals individuals have families?
HILL: Yes.
CUOMO: How could that they be finding it inside relation to discovering another job?
HILL: Well, we have been all hoping this is a extremely short layoff.
CUOMO: Anyone possess a family.
HILL: Yes.
CUOMO: Exactly what is it just like with regard to one to attempt to take proper care of your current
family?
HILL: Heading via hurricane Sandy would become a devastating experience. I get six children and it
took a excellent offer to choose eight weeks with little pay.
CUOMO: Now, whenever you listen to what this is about, they feel they're doing this with regard to
you, this is truly a fight with regards to if the particular Inexpensive care Act is going to be great for
you, do you think you are generally the target associated with the energy down within D.C. correct
now?
HILL: Definitely not. This may always be the wrong forum to become doing these type of activities.
That They had 364 times to obtain collectively about this. This particular is really a time for you to
pass any budget.
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CUOMO: Janet, you're the military wife. Thank a person for your service.
JANET MCINTOSH, MILITARY WIFE: Thank you.
CUOMO: Simply Because we realize much too well it's most regulated in regards to be able to the
entire family members when somebody serves. They Will passed a fast resolution to make positive
the military keeps acquiring paid there. Perform you're feeling together with every little thing that's
carried out and never carried out for the military families, can you really feel just like you're
becoming use like a pawn within what are usually anyone doing here right now?
MCINTOSH: Yes, I feel the federal government to some certain extent utilizes your military as well
as our veterans as well like a pawn while playing this game, wanting to get one side to complete one
thing and also the other side will be wanting to acquire the other facet to do something.
And it's tiring regarding military families. That is tiring -- the stress as well as anxiety becoming
brought consequently near and worrying in what am i going to complete as well as then, the final
minute, these people pass resolutions in order to granted give us our pay, but we're nonetheless
struggling with it in additional ways, together with coping with sequestration for that past couple of
a few months as well.
CUOMO: As Well As they took their time, right? they didn't take it proper away, right? Even believed
your own priority, everybody props up troops, right? These People say they will use your ribbon, but
they waited, right? What really does in which mean to you?
MCINTOSH: The idea enables you to question simply how much they do care about his or her
military as well as the real method it can be affecting us. It's kind of such as these people look at us
of much much more of such as exactly how should we rely upon them pertaining to our gain as
opposed to actually worrying in regards to the impact it's having in families and additionally on our
services members.
CUOMO: Now, we realize even as undergo the morning, we'll keep talking to end up being able to
you. You may find people who don't know if the actual Inexpensive care Act will continue to work for
them. That They have zero idea whether as well as not they're likely to be in a new position to final
throughout the shutdown. So, we're planning to obtain for your concerns and that we appreciate you
getting here.
Nothing different you get to see Mickey as well as Kate almost all morning. That's any advantage
inside as well as of itself.
Kate, to you.
BOLDUAN: all right. Chris, thanks so much.
Coming up next on NEW DAY, Amanda Knox upon trial again with regard to murder. Day one in an
Italian courtroom didn't go well for her defense. The live report in that, ahead.
Also ahead, millions of Americans can go on the internet this morning and start shopping with
regard to wellness insurance. Yet the majority of people don't even know how the new health
treatment law works. So, that do we carry in? Dr. Sanjay Gupta. He's attempting to assist us
understand most of your options, next.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
GUPTA: Welcome back to NEW DAY.
With all associated with the politicians fighting over Obamacare, nobody is even bothering, it seems,
in order to inquire how a health law itself really works. Despite the us government shutdown,
several Americans are generally able to join medical health insurance starting this morning.
However Americans aren't convinced Obamacare is actually likely to aid their particular families.
In a new CNN/ORC poll out just this morning, simply 17 % regarding Americans think it will assist
their own family, 36 percent believe, though, it'll assist others.
CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta is at Greenville, South Carolina, a state the place where a fifth of people
there don't have got well being insurance, which could be an amazing range to start with, Sanjay.
So, Sanjay, we now have our new poll outcomes out this morning, yet an additional record
furthermore says that with regards to three-quarters regarding customers just have absolutely no
idea the fundamentals of the insurance coverage marketplace in which opens today, that clearly can
be troubling.
So, walk us by means of who is ready to signal up along with how, should you could.
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, those figures sort of create
sense. in the great offer of ways a new great deal of individuals that have insurance through their
employers correct now, they've not really actually centered on this. They're not really likely to
probably sign up for your exchanges. I feel that drives the particular numbers you're talking about.
But you're absolutely right. There's the large quantity of people who nonetheless simply don't view
the basics regarding signing up, which in turn will begin today. Along With you're talking about 48
million Americans approximately which don't have it, since they do not want it, because they do not
feel they need it or perhaps costs happen in order to be excessive due to pre-existing conditions. and
those are the stuff that are truly dedicated to today.
So, the Internet website is planning to be 1 portal which I feel can be likely to help drive people, that
is healthcare.gov. In 8:00 a.m. Eastern, folks are likely to see that for that first time and stay able to
subscribe to this.
We got the sneak appear only with that before time, again, just regarding an hour or so along with a
half through now it will be up. It's potentially a new three-page application. It's fairly
straightforward.
And the one thing you will not discover in in which application can be any questions about your
current health-related history. This particular is extremely important. This is sort of your crux
associated with the whole issue. These People don't inquire if you've pre-existing circumstances as it
is irrelevant inside terms of the actual premiums you are going being charged.
There's a new bunch of numerous alternatives on there and Golf Course Foreclosures Capitol Hill DC
in addition you type of pick the plan.
BOLDUAN: So, you will find four different ranges of coverage that you simply can pick from. So, how
is it different? I mean, I'm sure -- it's far more complex compared to we're trying to simplify it. The
idea does want being simplified regarding people who will most likely be logging upon for the first
time today.
GUPTA: Yes. Look, if you've ever been using your textbooks about insurance plans at this time using
your employer, that they may be confusing. There's zero question. This kind of could be confusing as
well, although I would enterprise to become able to say maybe certainly not just as much as you may
think.
So, think about it just like this. A Person get four tiers of plans, platinum in order to bronze.
Platinum goes to be one of the most expensive, but it is also likely to offer the cheapest co-pays,
lowest deductibles. Bronze the actual cheapest, highest co-pays, highest deductibles.
You're a proper person, you do not get any healthcare problems. You're not necessarily likely for the
doctor very much. Your bronze program might end up being for you.
Also, individuals beneath the age of 30, nevertheless more than the actual chronilogical grow older
of 26, they're able to stand their particular mothers and also fathers plan until 26. However among
26 along with 30, they can additionally be eligible for catastrophic plans, 3 doctor visits the year, as
well as coverage involving catastrophic problems, emergency problems.
So, it's truly those five things, again, these tiers, platinum to end up being able to bronze and then in
which catastrophic coverage.
BOLDUAN: Exactly what about individuals people who say that they shouldn't indicator up? I mean,
you will still possess a selection however, there is the penalty, right?
GUPTA: Yes. There's a penalty. The Particular method throughout which I take a glance at this, if an
individual are an individual and a person also can easily afford to buy it, you choose not really to, the
particular penalty inside the newbie will be $95 or even one percent of one's income, whichever is
actually higher. Along With then it moves up. So, $235 or perhaps two percent of one's income,
whichever is higher. It keeps going up to the season 2016.
So, the particular penalty newbie may or may not be that will much. Nevertheless it's likely to
continue to go up. I think that's sort of your lengthier rollout of this, trying to have more plus more
folks signed up.
BOLDUAN: all right. Sanjay, thanks a excellent deal -- trying to answer some regarding those
questions.
And a remainder to all our viewers, Sanjay Gupta will be hitting the road most week to answer a
quantity of of your problem along with try to simplify a number of the complexities because the
health care law rolls out.
Great to determine you, Sanjay. Thank you.
So, let's know everything you think concerning this and almost all sorts of one other stories we're
referring to today. Tweet us. Ensure to utilize #newday.
CUOMO: Coming up next upon NEW DAY, your all judges within the Amanda Knox case showed that
they mean business. We'll tell you why. the important to the case was DNA. that issue seemed
decided, now it may well not be. We'll have a reside report. PEREIRA: Plus, appear fast, or even you
could miss it. Oh, it's a fox generating mischief on the greens within Europe. Great luck finishing the
rear nine using this factor around. It's our must-see moment. We'll get it once we arrive back.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
CUOMO: Welcome back in order to NEW DAY.
An Italian court okayed the significant evidence request Monday within the Amanda Knox case,
however shut down over any dozen other people in the defense. Knox, you'll remember, is accused
inside the 2007 murder involving the girl roommate. It will be the woman's third trial for that crime,
which in turn isn't unusual under the Italian system, nevertheless prosecutors say there's
additionally the particular impetus associated with much more evidence here. CNN's Erin
McLaughlin is in London with that. good morning, Erin.
ERIN MCLAUGHLIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Great morning, Chris. Their Own lawyers certainly
stood a difficult day throughout court. American, Amanda Knox, as well as her former boyfriend,
Raffaele Sollecito are actually striving when again for you to demonstrate his or her innocence in the
murder charges against them.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
MCLAUGHLIN (voice-over): This was a poor day within court regarding Amanda Knox's protection
team as your ex retrial began throughout Florence, Italy. the judge rejected more than any dozen
requests produced by Knox's lawyer, including for a plea of new assessments on important evidence
which they think would distinct Knox then boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito, as quickly as and also it
actually is your 2007 murder associated with Meredith Kercher.
DANNY CEVALLOS, CNN LEGAL ANLYST: It's often a bad day if the judge awards really the
particular prosecution's motions that the protection motions. However, inside a substantial profile
case, there's the tremendous strain on a judge for you to err on the aspect associated with
permitting evidence inside as opposed to keeping it out.
MCLAUGHLIN: the court does grant the defense's obtain further screening on the kitchen knife seen
in Sollecito's Perugia apartment, which usually prosecutors had Knox's DNA around the handle and
Kircher's DNA around the blade. Knox features always maintained the woman's innocence within the
murder involving your ex 21-year-old British roommate.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm not really responsible for what happened. I didn't do it. I wasn't there.
I do not know some thing with regards to it.
MCLAUGHLIN: The Actual court furthermore stated it might contemplate testimony of the convict
named Luciano Aviello (ph), former cell mate associated with Sollecito's that has claimed their own
brother killed Kercher. Although Knox remains in the United States, your ex lawyers furiously
argued on her behalf, warning of the chance of an infinite trial since the murder cost throughout
Italy has no statute associated with limitations.
CEVALLOS: A Quantity Of observers have said that that internal conviction in which any judge will
want to have before obtaining a person guilty can be actually an increased normal and which is
much more protective involving defendants. (END VIDEOTAPE)
MCLAUGHLIN (on-camera): the trial has been adjourned until Friday when Aviello is anticipated in
order to testify as well as the investigators due to become able to the go-ahead in order to test the
actual knife. Meanwhile, Amanda Knox watches all this through the girl residence in Seattle. When
your woman is actually ultimately convicted, the lady will be ordered to return to be able to Italy.
When she refuses, Italy could request regarding extradition from your united States -- Chris as well
as Kate.
CUOMO: It might get complicated, absolutely no question. Erin, many thanks for the reporting.
Obviously, we're a extended way from that. Exactly Where we are right now within the procedure is
actually figuring out the guidelines involving play. Just what will be the actual evidence that's
accustomed to use a re-assessment with the facts in this case. So, we'll see how it turns out,
however, there is a lengthy street forward regarding Amanda Knox.
BOLDUAN: Amazing to truly dealing with this again along with again and also again. Any time will it
end? I comprehend it here, but it doesn't create a great offer of sense logically.
PEREIRA: hard to move in for your life for a lot of the players when that's nonetheless dragging
about --
CUOMO: Absolutely. Along With yet, we must transfer on using the show.
PEREIRA: Shall we? Shall we deliver you a "Must-See Moment"?
CUOMO: Please.
PEREIRA: I'd prefer to feature a fox. Just what does the fox say? Apparently, produce that golf ball.
Examine out the Wiley (ph) fox who's been raising the particular ire of golfers at a program in
Switzerland. He waits until your unsuspecting golfers took their particular shot just before jamming
out of the bushes and snatching your golf balls. Reportedly, he's seized as numerous 100 balls.
CUOMO: Really?
PEREIRA: Numerous of which even now inside play. My problem is, what's he doing with this
particular them?
CUOMO: He thinks they're eggs and he's equally disappointed each and also every time.
BOLDUAN: Each time, nevertheless he will not give up.
PEREIRA: I think he's trading these people within pertaining to cash at a course on the road.
CUOMO: He's among individuals guys.
PEREIRA: Yes.
CUOMO: He comes down using a bucket after the day in order to guys just like me. need much more
balls to simply believe (ph)? Yes, I do.
(LAUGHTER)
CUOMO: Thank you. Along With you're fox. That's all.
PEREIRA: That's all.
(CROSSTALK)
CUOMO: but the buy price is too great to pass up.
BOLDUAN: Exactly. I'll take it.
PEREIRA: The deal's any deal.
BOLDUAN: but I'll consider it. I similar to that. It's any smart fox. An entrepreneurial fox.
(LAUGHTER)
CUOMO: Sly as a fox.
(LAUGHTER)
BOLDUAN: Coming up next about NEW DAY, have an individual been planning about shelling out a
beautiful fall day with a national park? Unfortunately, you'll need to believe again. The Actual
government shutdown ruining individuals plans, yet more importantly, we talk about the national
parks, however a lot more importantly, the actual shutdown will be hurting people's livelihoods. How
does it affect you? We're planning to have an overabundance whenever we occur back.
CUOMO: As Well As the scary question, what could you believe if you're on the train as well as found
another one coming correct from you together with there's no one at the controls? that really
happened close to Chicago. The idea provides authorities stumped and also it's our subsequent
story.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
BOLDUAN: In Which songs indicates it's moment for your "Rock Block," a simple gather the actual
stories you'll be referring to today. Very first up, Michaela.
PEREIRA: Let's require a examine "The Ny Post." NASA preparing to end up being able to launch a
new 3D printer directly into room next year. They'll be employed by astronauts to assist build cars
and also construct scientific experiments on the International Area Station. Thus great.
"USA Today," wine drinkers tend to go overboard and not realize it. a new research exhibits the
actual assortment of wine glass, shapes, sizes, and also colors causes it for you to be hard to
maintain a record of just just how much wine should go into a glass. We say nothing.
Time with regard to company news --
(LAUGHTER)
CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Can Easily you send me a web link to
that story, please. PEREIRA: Christine Romans.
ROMANS: Stock futures tend to be higher this morning. They're on course to regain much of
yesterday's losses. Investors showing poise this morning following the first government shutdown in
17 years. The Particular Congress could even now torpedo the 401(k). I want to show a person the
actual gains you've created 12 months in order to date. Your Dow, NASDAQ, as well as S&P are
usually almost all up double digits.
Gas price is falling, the 29th consecutive decrease. $3.39 the gallon proper now. It's expected to
keep falling for your next number of weeks.
Let's get to Indra Petersons for the weather.
INDRA PETERSONS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: I like this. We must give you a couple of issues by
incorporating great news out there. We keep in which heading with all the weather. I mean,
stunning out there. Any dome regarding high pressure upon flakes bringing almost all which warm
air not only for the southeast but spreading every 1 of the high to the northeast today.
And I'm certainly not discussing just 70s out there, 80s within fall. I mean, look as of this Cleveland,
77 today. that is likely to be the afternoon high if the average is expected to become typically inside
the 60s. Cincinnati, exact same thing, 80s, New York, D.C., every person savoring this stunning
weather now. Involving course, we're even now seeing warm weather within the southeast as well.
A small bit of the hint there with that higher pressure. We're nevertheless talking about a few
moisture. So, maybe a number of showers type of spreading up into Texas within by means of
Mississippi. Yet otherwise, rather nice and also beautiful. everyone is loving this. That's my just ray
of sunshine for your day/
BOLDUAN: We'll consider it. Thanks consequently much, Indra. We're now correct shut for the
surface of your hour which means it's time for your leading news.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
REP. JOHN BOEHNER, (R) HOUSE SPEAKER: The Actual home has voted in order to keep your
government open, yet we additionally want simple fairness pertaining to most Americans beneath
Obamacare.
CUOMO: Breaking overnight, shutdown. Congress can't create a last- minute deal. So, for your first
time throughout 17 years, your federal government can be mostly closed. American families going
with out although politicians play throughout the blame game.
BOLDUAN: The Actual fallout. Hundreds regarding thousands likely with out pay. So, what's open?
What's closed? We have got your own shutdown survival guide, all this as an integral part of
Obamacare begins this morning.
PEREIRA: Trapped. Any loved ones killed with a sudden rock slide whilst hiking around the simple
trail. Their Particular daughter, your lone survivor.
Also, look only at that video. Any loved ones attacked within broad daylight throughout new york by
a pack associated with bikers. We've got the story behind the particular video. CUOMO: The NEW
DAY starts correct now.
ANNOUNCER: This really is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo, Kate Bolduan, as well as Michaela
Pereira.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
CUOMO: Excellent morning. Welcome back again to be able to NEW DAY. It's Tuesday, October 1st.
It will be seven o'clock within the east. As Well As we wish for you to welcome our international
viewers. We are now seven hours to the very first government shutdown inside 17 years. Basically,
your issue is whether or perhaps not or perhaps not to make investments in your affordable care Act
in addition referred in order to as Obamacare.
No offer meant federal agencies began likely darkish at 12:01 eastern time. It's unclear once the
Residence along with Senate will arrive at a contract and have the government operating again.